COVID-19 Megathread 5: The Trumps catch COVID-19

[GeorgiaModerate]

https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1273016873945313280

[GeorgiaModerate]

Gov. Ron DeSantis said 260 workers at the Orlando International Airport have tested positive for the coronavirus after nearly 500 employees were tested.

“[An]Airport in Central Florida had a couple of cases, they did the contract tracing. They looked [at] almost 500 workers [and] 260 people working close together were positive, 52 percent positivity rate on that one,” DeSantis said.

https://www.clickorlando.com/news/local/2020/06/16/gov-desantis-shares-latest-update-on-covid-19-after-florida-reports-2783-new-cases/

[GeorgiaModerate]

https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1273379900066578434

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What are the chances at this point that this could be the deadliest pandemic in American History? That record is currently held at 600k with the 1918 Flu.

Making the assumption that we should have a vaccine by the first half of 2021, and given current case and fatality rates, I think that's extremely unlikely.

[GeorgiaModerate]

Yet another record day for Florida, 3207 new cases reported... Previous high (only 2 days ago) was 2783, which at the time seemed like a shocking increase.

And in other news, Texas yet again reports new record high COVID-19 hospitalizations.



The hits just keep on coming.

Florida may be the next epicenter.

[GeorgiaModerate]

Very interesting:

https://twitter.com/TheNBACentral/status/1273667511788109829

[GeorgiaModerate]

https://twitter.com/joshtpm/status/1273980074056978439

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Also, what New York (among other places) shows is that 60%-70% don't have to be infected. The virus can be contained, at minuscule levels, until a vaccine or treatment is available.

We don’t actually know that.  At this point, it’s probably a question of whether a vaccine is available before a second wave comes.  But at least we do have treatments now!

Second wave?  We're still in the first wave.

[GeorgiaModerate]

I don’t see what the concern is. We know it’s not nearly as fatal as we once believed. And as far as fatality goes overall, most survive, and just like with any illness some of course will die.

You can’t save everyone.

And you can’t put the entire nation in economic jeopardy in order to save a few centennials. I don’t care if it sounds crass, it’s a cost-benefit analysis that must be done.

Roughly a quarter of coronavirus cases require hospitalization--the problem is if you just let it run rampant more people will get it, and the ICUs will run out of room. As the cases keep going up, hospitals become overwhelmed, people who would otherwise survive with treatment die because there's no room, not to mention people with other illnesses or life threatening injuries (car accidents for example) who will die because they can't get into a hospital.

The ONLY reason the number of deaths isn't higher is because so far that's been prevented from happening on a larger nationwide scale because of the precautions. Toss those out the window and the death rate skyrockets.

This is happening right now in Florida:
ICU beds in short supply across Florida as state struggles with coronavirus spike

[GeorgiaModerate]

https://twitter.com/HotlineJosh/status/1274096073083101190

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Has the EU restricted international travel at all? If so that's a pretty compelling reason why EU would have a higher case load than the US (and that's ignoring any differences in testing).

Yes, the EU restricted travel (even internally within the Schengen area) in March.  They are just now relaxing some restrictions; it varies from country to country.  See https://www.politico.eu/article/coronavirus-travel-europe-country-by-country-travel-restrictions-explained-summer-2020/.

[GeorgiaModerate]

https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1274127246404595712

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Meanwhile, Brazil reported 55k new cases today.

That's appalling.

[GeorgiaModerate]

There's been a lot of discussion that the U.S. death rate has been lower because a younger population is being infected now.  In support of that idea: the median age of cases in Florida last week was 37, compared to the 60s early in the outbreak.

https://www.wptv.com/news/state/florida-gov-ron-desantis-to-give-coronavirus-update-at-florida-international-university

[GeorgiaModerate]

https://twitter.com/aravosis/status/1274355082402955269

I just don't know what to say.

[GeorgiaModerate]

Are people still seriously citing case numbers?

Yes.

https://talkelections.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=370528.msg7405122#msg7405122

Again, I can't speak for everybody, but it definitely put me out of commission for about three weeks -- and I can confidently call myself an athletic-type with no *prior conditions*

2000 calories or less a day while watching the sodium and carbs, nearly-vegetarian (I do love chicken, though), and I run five miles five times a week.  

IIRC you had a good idea of who infected you.  What ever happened to them (i.e. did they get symptoms as well)?

[GeorgiaModerate]

If I die, I die.

There's no point shutting down society and ruining younger people's lives just to save a 47-year-old man like me who won't be around much longer anyway.

Now, because of the lockdowns, life is pretty much over for anyone in America between 18 and 45.

The last sentence is one of the most incredibly selfish and dumb things I've ever read on this forum (and that's s high bar).  Life is "over" because of the lockdowns?  No, your life is paused and affected by it, for a few months or so - a very short fraction of a lifetime for most people.  It's only "over" for those who get the virus and die from it, which is what we're trying to minimize. You can't put up with some inconvenience for a while to help control a deadly disease? It's not going to last forever.  In a year or two we'll look back and tell war stories about this time.  it's not the end of the world.

[GeorgiaModerate]

https://twitter.com/JohnJHarwood/status/1275061777911463936

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https://twitter.com/tplohetski/status/1275144580397137920

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https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1275486316432625665

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https://twitter.com/Jordanfabian/status/1275549408042422272

[GeorgiaModerate]

The increasing positive test rate is not a good sign.

[GeorgiaModerate]

https://twitter.com/COVID19Tracking/status/1275919695380545536

[GeorgiaModerate]

https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1276240972062613505
https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1276242764334804998

[GeorgiaModerate]

NYC reports no protest-related upticks in Covid-19.