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Secretary of State Liberal Hack
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« on: October 24, 2022, 12:22:25 AM »

Congratulations, India. You've finally turned the tables on your old colonial masters. Now all that's left is to sell the UK to Infosys, East-India company style. Wink
This seems low key xenophobic
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« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2022, 02:08:37 PM »

One difference between Sunak and Johnson is that Sunak is not drowning in personal debt. There's a reason why quite a few of Johnson's scandals during his time in No. 10 involved abuse of state property or questionable funding from third party donors...

Sunak has the opposite problem. He and his wife (mostly his wife) have a net worth of almost 5 billion dollars

Come to think of it Sunak might be one of the few billionaire leader of a democratic county
I've kind of changed my opinon on Sunak, he's currently rich but he wasn't realy born into it. His family background is solidy upper-middle class, and I think that probably allows him to appele better to the electorate than someone born a plutocrat.
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« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2022, 04:26:49 PM »
« Edited: October 27, 2022, 04:31:56 PM by Secretary of State Liberal Hack »

One difference between Sunak and Johnson is that Sunak is not drowning in personal debt. There's a reason why quite a few of Johnson's scandals during his time in No. 10 involved abuse of state property or questionable funding from third party donors...

Sunak has the opposite problem. He and his wife (mostly his wife) have a net worth of almost 5 billion dollars

Come to think of it Sunak might be one of the few billionaire leader of a democratic county
I've kind of changed my opinon on Sunak, he's currently rich but he wasn't realy born into it. His family background is solidy upper-middle class, and I think that probably allows him to appele better to the electorate than someone born a plutocrat.

What total bollox, he went to one of the most elite schools in the country, and was filmed litterally saying he doesn't even know poor people.
A lot of upper-midde class people are like that, tbh for almost everyone socializing outside of their socioeconomic status is the exception rather than the norm.
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« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2022, 02:25:59 PM »

I've kind of changed my opinon on Sunak, he's currently rich but he wasn't realy born into it. His family background is solidy upper-middle class, and I think that probably allows him to appele better to the electorate than someone born a plutocrat.

It's true that he wasn't born into obscene wealth. He has it now because he married into it. Somehow I doubt that that makes him seem like a man of the people.
Well both Cameron and Boris were born into solidly upper-class backgrounds so Sunak does come from relatively humble roots compared to them.
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Secretary of State Liberal Hack
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« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2022, 01:50:22 PM »

I've kind of changed my opinon on Sunak, he's currently rich but he wasn't realy born into it. His family background is solidy upper-middle class, and I think that probably allows him to appele better to the electorate than someone born a plutocrat.

It's true that he wasn't born into obscene wealth. He has it now because he married into it. Somehow I doubt that that makes him seem like a man of the people.
Well both Cameron and Boris were born into solidly upper-class backgrounds so Sunak does come from relatively humble roots compared to them.

Sunak went to private school, which less than 6% of the population do (ie 94% don’t). If that makes him middle class then the term middle class has become meaningless.

By any reasonable definition he is part of the upper class.
No one is denying that he's from a comfortable background, but child of a Pharmacist and doctor is not exactly the sort of background that screems plutocrat.
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« Reply #5 on: October 29, 2022, 02:53:41 PM »

I've kind of changed my opinon on Sunak, he's currently rich but he wasn't realy born into it. His family background is solidy upper-middle class, and I think that probably allows him to appele better to the electorate than someone born a plutocrat.

It's true that he wasn't born into obscene wealth. He has it now because he married into it. Somehow I doubt that that makes him seem like a man of the people.
Well both Cameron and Boris were born into solidly upper-class backgrounds so Sunak does come from relatively humble roots compared to them.

Sunak went to private school, which less than 6% of the population do (ie 94% don’t). If that makes him middle class then the term middle class has become meaningless.

By any reasonable definition he is part of the upper class.
No one is denying that he's from a comfortable background, but child of a Pharmacist and doctor is not exactly the sort of background that screems plutocrat.

Maybe, but attending Winchester College after a prep school is not “upper middle class” in any sense. He is from the privileged elite.
What do you define "upper middle-class" as ? Because Doctors and Pharmacist two well-paid proffesions seems to be about as exemplary of it as possible.
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