Did dems have a better night in New Jersey than Virginia? (user search)
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kwabbit
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« on: November 08, 2023, 09:41:48 AM »

I feel like I'm being gas lit.

Holding onto one chamber while flipping another when both were competitive is not evidence of an incompetent state party. Nor should it continue to go unmentioned that Republicans still held both chambers  until 2019. Virginia Republicans still have strength down ballot, Biden wracking up a double digit victory in 2020 doesn't change that.

The old maps were gerrymandered IIRC. That's how the GOP managed to hold on to 2019.
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kwabbit
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« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2023, 11:01:53 AM »

I feel like I'm being gas lit.

Holding onto one chamber while flipping another when both were competitive is not evidence of an incompetent state party. Nor should it continue to go unmentioned that Republicans still held both chambers  until 2019. Virginia Republicans still have strength down ballot, Biden wracking up a double digit victory in 2020 doesn't change that.

The old maps were gerrymandered IIRC. That's how the GOP managed to hold on to 2019.

Not sure that negates my point. Republicans have strength down ballot and both chambers were competitive with Republicans having held both as late as 2019. Democrats won both so I take offense to someone calling them "one of their most incompetent state parties".

In fair maps they would've won control in 2017, which is more expected. They do have down ballot strength and it does make the GOP performance less impressive, but you can't directly compare fair maps to gerrymandered maps when talking about control.
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