Florida's "don't say gay" bill passes state house (user search)
       |           

Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?
June 03, 2024, 02:12:33 AM
News: Election Simulator 2.0 Released. Senate/Gubernatorial maps, proportional electoral votes, and more - Read more

  Talk Elections
  General Politics
  U.S. General Discussion (Moderators: The Dowager Mod, Chancellor Tanterterg)
  Florida's "don't say gay" bill passes state house (search mode)
Pages: [1]
Author Topic: Florida's "don't say gay" bill passes state house  (Read 6092 times)
Klobmentum Mutilated Herself
Phlorescent Leech
Jr. Member
***
Posts: 880


Political Matrix
E: -4.39, S: -8.35

« on: March 09, 2022, 11:35:28 AM »
« edited: March 09, 2022, 06:39:34 PM by Klobmentum »

Look I'm trans and bi, but I seriously don't see the reason why schools need to be teaching kids in kindergarten that stuff. Seems unnecessary and if they really need to learn it, let the parents explain it.
When I was your age, I had never met an open trans person. Trans people and trans issues were not mentioned in schools. All the great online resources available to trans people, particularly trans youth today, today to learn, ask questions, and hear people's stories did not exist. Trans people had no media coverage except to serve as sentient punchlines. The Straights did not see it as fashionable to be trans allies — no rallies, bumper stickers, no pronouns in MySpace bios; they were still getting around to that whole Civil Unions thing. Most people didn't know the difference between transgender and a transvestite.

And my parents — who were liberal, secular, and pro-gay — considered my gender expression to be a disease to be "fixed".

So, in other words, I was ed. There was no place for me at home, school, or even online (there were always trans online spaces, but not like today).  There are still trans people whose childhood stories sound a lot like mine, but now there are many trans youth who have a relatively positive experience growing up trans. That is in no small part due to schools becoming a safe space for many kids. Safe spaces for trans youth used to be very hard to come by, and today, they are less so.  Let's not start taking away those safe spaces.

I'm only 29, and oh god, how I wish I could've been born a decade later. I do not want to see the massive progress the trans community has made in a short amount of time reversed. I do not want my experience growing up to become the norm again. That's what will happen if we start rolling back progress. Trans youth need safe spaces.

You may look at all the different anti-trans methods of attack — arresting supportive parents and doctors, detransitioning people, banning trans people from moving to different states, Don't Say Gay, Bathroom Bills, sports bans — and say that some are obviously worse than others, but they're all part of the same agenda. The popular ones like sports bans are Trojan horses for arresting and detransitioning people. This is a genocide attempt in its early stages; they want trans people to stop existing. They are going to find a way to go after trans adults. They want you (well, maybe they don't care about what goes on in Australia), me, Peebs, Scarlet, Disco, Koopa, Courts, and every trans person you've ever met out of the picture, and they don't particularly care if they're dead or alive.

Don't be a useful idiot for people who want to kill you. It's not worth the recommends from Mr. Reactionary (don't rec my posts about having a sh!tty upbringing, you jerk) and John Dule.
Logged
Klobmentum Mutilated Herself
Phlorescent Leech
Jr. Member
***
Posts: 880


Political Matrix
E: -4.39, S: -8.35

« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2022, 08:13:58 PM »

3rd graders don't have sexual or romantic attraction and therefore can't be gay (or straight for that matter).
Even if you want to get really pedantic about which expressions of attraction count and don't count, a lot of kids, especially girls, hit puberty early. The hormones of a 3rd graders with a crush are doing the same thing as the hormones of an 8th grader with a crush, and I don't think you'd say the latter isn't actually feeling attraction.
Logged
Klobmentum Mutilated Herself
Phlorescent Leech
Jr. Member
***
Posts: 880


Political Matrix
E: -4.39, S: -8.35

« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2022, 07:01:26 PM »

I think it's pretty well established that Twitter is full of grandstanders and provocateurs. The idea that there is any significant movement on "the Left" to classify "demisexuals" as another letter in the LGBTQ community is laughably out of touch with reality.
Demisexuals are already included in the A of LGBTQIA, since they're considered to be a part of the asexual spectrum. But you're correct that nobody, including asexual people, considers them to be oppressed in the sake way as the Ls, Gs, Bs, Ts, or Is. Trans kids are being literally kidnapped by the state, forcibly detransitioning, and having the people who actually support them arrested, whereas ace people are generally just annoyed at how sex-obsessed society is and how people treat them as weirdos for not experiencing sexual attraction (which does kinda put them at odds with the radical sex positivity of the much of the LGBTQ community), but again, they don't claim they're oppressed.

Why the homophobic and transphobic lobby is picking a fight with ace people is beyond me. Why do you care if people call themselves demisexual when that is, in fact, an accurate descriptor of their sexuality, or lack thereof? And even if it wasn't, why would anyone even care?
Logged
Pages: [1]  
Jump to:  


Login with username, password and session length

Terms of Service - DMCA Agent and Policy - Privacy Policy and Cookies

Powered by SMF 1.1.21 | SMF © 2015, Simple Machines

Page created in 0.023 seconds with 10 queries.