French National Assembly Elections, 06/30-07/07

[Ancestral Republican]

If RN wins, is it plausible that this could lead to French aid to Ukraine being cut off? Or would Macron's Presidential foreign policy authority extend far enough to enable him to keep it going even if RN had a majority and wanted to stop it?

I am particularly concerned about what could happen if Trump wins in the US combined with France going wobbly. If Trump wins, Europe will need to step up in a big way as US aid is cut off, or else Ukraine could lose, and then who knows what would come next from Russia after that.

Le Pen sucks but she supports Ukraine in the war I believe.

[Ancestral Republican]

Officially endorsing RN . Immigration is the 2nd most important issue for France and as a Hindu self preservation is more important than “muh stopping the far right” .

Least shocking development today.

I am supporting them because of their immigration policies not because inspite it. The only reason I didnt support them in round 1 is cause they are socialists on economic policy but now since we are guaranteed socialism anyway, I will base my support on immigration

Have you ever thought "I genuinely don't understand politics [particularly international] very well" and instead of taking outlandish positions like this, staying neutral and working to understand them better?

[Ancestral Republican]

Officially endorsing RN . Immigration is the 2nd most important issue for France and as a Hindu self preservation is more important than “muh stopping the far right” .

Least shocking development today.

I am supporting them because of their immigration policies not because inspite it. The only reason I didnt support them in round 1 is cause they are socialists on economic policy but now since we are guaranteed socialism anyway, I will base my support on immigration

Have you ever thought "I genuinely don't understand politics [particularly international] very well" and instead of taking outlandish positions like this, staying neutral and working to understand them better?

France needs mass deportations at this point

I'll take that as a "no"....

[Ancestral Republican]

Officially endorsing RN . Immigration is the 2nd most important issue for France and as a Hindu self preservation is more important than “muh stopping the far right” .

Least shocking development today.

I am supporting them because of their immigration policies not because inspite it. The only reason I didnt support them in round 1 is cause they are socialists on economic policy but now since we are guaranteed socialism anyway, I will base my support on immigration

Have you ever thought "I genuinely don't understand politics [particularly international] very well" and instead of taking outlandish positions like this, staying neutral and working to understand them better?

France needs mass deportations at this point

I'll take that as a "no"....

Does he "understand [particularly international] politics very well" is one question.

Does he understand what his political interests are in another question.

He seems to articulate that he opposes socialism and mass immigration.

Between two parties where one opposes all of his interests, and the other supports some of his interests, the rational choice seems clear.

What is your real point?

You can't be serious, right? Dude is calling for mass deportations (a borderline genocidal idea given Europe's history) of Muslims in a country he doesn't even live in because of "Hindu self preservation" whatever that means.

[Ancestral Republican]

I love how every time the far-right is ahead in a European election you always have the same handful of American cryptofascist creeps who never otherwise engage in European politics suddenly crawl out of their holes to spout off their rehashed talking points with no relation to the actual issues of the campaign. The audacity of acting like you have anything of any import or meaning to add to the conversation is truly something to behold. This is all the engagement you'll get out of me, though, because I'll be out there engaging in actual electoral analysis.

Even Mongoose said he would support Le Pen if he was French, so its just not right wingers saying it. The fact is mass immigration in Europe has failed and the reason I brought up as a Hindu is due to this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Leicester_unrest

And the reaction to 10/7 further terrifies me. Thankfully I don't live in France though

Your evocation of an unrelated incident in a different country is not exactly helping anyone think you understand what you're talking about.

[Ancestral Republican]

Officially endorsing RN . Immigration is the 2nd most important issue for France and as a Hindu self preservation is more important than “muh stopping the far right” .

Least shocking development today.

I am supporting them because of their immigration policies not because inspite it. The only reason I didnt support them in round 1 is cause they are socialists on economic policy but now since we are guaranteed socialism anyway, I will base my support on immigration

Have you ever thought "I genuinely don't understand politics [particularly international] very well" and instead of taking outlandish positions like this, staying neutral and working to understand them better?

France needs mass deportations at this point

I'll take that as a "no"....

Does he "understand [particularly international] politics very well" is one question.

Does he understand what his political interests are in another question.

He seems to articulate that he opposes socialism and mass immigration.

Between two parties where one opposes all of his interests, and the other supports some of his interests, the rational choice seems clear.

What is your real point?

You can't be serious, right? Dude is calling for mass deportations (a borderline genocidal idea given Europe's history) of Muslims in a country he doesn't even live in because of "Hindu self preservation" whatever that means.

First of all, "Europe's history" whatever you mean by that simply isn't "Hindu history,"

It's really not a difficult exercise to understand what I meant by "Europe's history"....Your comment is a complete non-sequitur.

[Ancestral Republican]

nfp supporters made it clear wont Accept the results if they lose and their supporters will try a french j6 they are a threat to democracy

The sort of imported anti-Western communism that the petty bourgeois cadres of the French left wish to impose upon the country would be a mortal danger for the Republic; you just need to look at the insurrectional protests taking place across the cities. Everyone from the civilized center-left to the right should vote against the Popular Front’s barbaric worldview.

I do have my doubts that voters who have stuck with Macron deapite it all will now massively vote for the Far-Left Front, which includes the literal Communist Party, the Trotskyite Melenchonist party and the neocommunist Greens. Large parts of which are even more pro-Russian than RN and whose program would bankrupt France. Honestly I would've been an Ensemble-abstain voter in this contest.

...We really need a ban in this thread on people who clearly don't understand French politics and have no interest in engaging with the election news and results (the purpose of the thread.)

[Ancestral Republican]

...We really need a ban in this thread on people who clearly don't understand French politics and have no interest in engaging with the election news and results (the purpose of the thread.)

Your views are out of step with the vast majority of French people, if we go by the election results. Taking that into account, I would not be so bold to claim a monopoly on understanding French politics. And I was under the impression that running commentary and political opinions were perfectly adequate for this thread, considering how they are accepted when they are closer to the mainstream of posters on here.

I do get that this is not a thread to debate about this, so I will not respond further, but I do not appreciate calls for banning me and other for expressing a viewpoint simply because you disagree with it.

Guy who thinks people should vote for Nazis to stop "petty bourgeois insurrectionalists" wants to lecture others on their views, lol. Give us a break. Probably a wise choice you duck out of the thread.

[Ancestral Republican]

Guy who thinks people should vote for Nazis to stop "petty bourgeois insurrectionalists" wants to lecture others on their views, lol. Give us a break. Probably a wise choice you duck out of the thread.

Keep yapping man. You can lecture Serge Klarsfeld and the Jewish community in France about what Nazism is, since you obviously know so much better than them.

You're still here. Incredible.

[Ancestral Republican]

nfp supporters made it clear wont Accept the results if they lose and their supporters will try a french j6 they are a threat to democracy

The sort of imported anti-Western communism that the petty bourgeois cadres of the French left wish to impose upon the country would be a mortal danger for the Republic; you just need to look at the insurrectional protests taking place across the cities. Everyone from the civilized center-left to the right should vote against the Popular Front’s barbaric worldview.

I do have my doubts that voters who have stuck with Macron deapite it all will now massively vote for the Far-Left Front, which includes the literal Communist Party, the Trotskyite Melenchonist party and the neocommunist Greens. Large parts of which are even more pro-Russian than RN and whose program would bankrupt France. Honestly I would've been an Ensemble-abstain voter in this contest.

...We really need a ban in this thread on people who clearly don't understand French politics and have no interest in engaging with the election news and results (the purpose of the thread.)

How is the 3rd post not engaging with the election results ? It’s literally discussing the truth that a large portion of Macronist voters do not like a lot of the left wing candidates and will either abstain or even vote for RN. Don’t forget that most LR voters will also pick RN against a NFP candidate .

Refer to the first part of my comment.

[Ancestral Republican]

...We really need a ban in this thread on people who clearly don't understand French politics and have no interest in engaging with the election news and results (the purpose of the thread.)

Your views are out of step with the vast majority of French people, if we go by the election results. Taking that into account, I would not be so bold to claim a monopoly on understanding French politics. And I was under the impression that running commentary and political opinions were perfectly adequate for this thread, considering how they are accepted when they are closer to the mainstream of posters on here.

I do get that this is not a thread to debate about this, so I will not respond further, but I do not appreciate calls for banning me and other for expressing a viewpoint simply because you disagree with it.

Guy who thinks people should vote for Nazis to stop "petty bourgeois insurrectionalists" wants to lecture others on their views, lol. Give us a break. Probably a wise choice you duck out of the thread.

RN aren’t Nazis . Unless of course you believe in the principles of “judge the kid for their father’s sins” . Not very liberal isn’t it

Whatever helps you sleep at night, buddy.