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Alcibiades
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« on: February 15, 2021, 04:10:26 AM »

Part of the problem is that Democrats' coalition in the past few years has been really inefficient. Hillary got California to swing left by 7 points, and Biden got similar swings from Maryland and Massachusetts. That does jack for them in the Electoral College and Senate. And while Texas may be getting closer, it still has a ways to go before it actually flips.

Their Senate majority in the 113th Congress included Arkansas, Indiana, Louisiana, Missouri, North Dakota and South Dakota. All of these states used to regularly elect Democratic Senators, but are now pretty much out of reach. They need to figure out why that is. And of course, they've continued to fall short in Florida and North Carolina. These states are only light red. If they can hold onto a Senate seat in West Virginia, arguably the Trumpiest state in the country, there's no excuse for losing one in Florida in the same cycle.

They have the same issues in states. In Wisconsin, Democrats are almost entirely packed into Milwaukee and Madison. Maybe I'm wrong, but in a fair map, I feel like it's just not really possible to draw a third Democratic-leaning congressional district.

For this reason, I find it strange that the Democrats never bring up scrapping FPTP, which obviously puts them at a disadvantage. Perhaps other voting systems are just seen as too alien a concept for America.
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Alcibiades
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« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2021, 09:12:52 AM »

3. Atlas tells me that the GOP came out ahead in the national Senate vote in 2010, 2014, and 2020. Wikipedia also tells me that Republicans came out ahead in the 2020 Senate vote. (I don't think this is all that meaningful a number, but you seem to have that fact wrong.) In other words, they've come out ahead in exactly half of the last six elections. Arbitrarily writing off two of those because they were "landslides" makes no sense.

Well, the GOP won a clear majority of seats up for election in each of those three years, in fact they won a higher percentage of seats than vote in all of them.

The problem really is with the US electoral system, regardless of which party it benefits (mostly the GOP in modern times, but this could change). Of the three federal electoral systems used, not one is as democratic as it could be, which renders the argument that they counterbalance each other moot: the Electoral College is bizarre and arcane, the Senate is hideously malapportioned, and the House uses FPTP, made worse by gerrymandering.
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