Trump related 'Hate Crime Surge'. Real or imagined?

[SUSAN CRUSHBONE]

Crime is down since most of it just moved onto the internets

If you're referring to online harassment that's been going on for a number of years. The question  is whether hate crime overall, whether it take the form of real life threats, assaults or vandalism or whether it takes the form of online threats and harassment has surged at all as a result of Trump's rhetoric and election.

Despite a lot of heady headlines the evidence would suggest that this 'hate crime surge' simply hasn't happened in reality.

I don't know about the rest of the US but anti-semetic hate crimes are up 100% in NYC since Trump got elected. That would require thousands of fake calls

Source?

The reason I ask for a source, before you ask, is because in the UK there was a big surge in reports of hate crimes immediately after the referendum. However there was no later surge in actual prosecutions for hate crimes. It seems the surge in reporting was not caused by any actual surge in crime but by media hysteria leading lots of people to report what they thought were hate crimes.

This massive increase in reporting was then reported by the police without any adjustment for which incidents had actually happened and which had just been invented, which were really hate crimes or just something that someone suspected of being hate crimes without the proof or evidence, which were people reporting unverified hearsay that they had heard second or third hand. All these types of unreliable reporting surge when there is media hysteria. However when it got to the point of sifting through evidence to assemble prosecutions there was absolutely no sign of this alleged hate crime surge.

Your stat would be particularly suspect if it came from the ADL who are famous for recording anything that someone somewhere suspects may be an antisemitic incident and reports it to them in their states of 'hate' incidents and crimes.

n.y.p.d., sweetie

suffice it to say, if even notorious perpetrators of hate crimes are accepting the existence of the increase…

now, if you'd care to provide a source for any of the nonsense you've spouted here, feel free to.

[SUSAN CRUSHBONE]

so you're continuing to post zero evidence of any ~false reports~, 'sthat right?

[SUSAN CRUSHBONE]

yeah the fact that you're badgering other people for sources while providing none of your own…

[SUSAN CRUSHBONE]

yeah m8 that a) doesn't prove what you're claiming it does, and b) isn't at all relevant to the numerous other questionable-at-best claims you're making

[SUSAN CRUSHBONE]

so in three of your four claimed hoaxes, the entirety of your 'proof' is that the police says so? the police system that is itself the most prolific organised group of hate-criminals in the country, if not the entire world? ok m8

[SUSAN CRUSHBONE]

so in three of your four claimed hoaxes, the entirety of your 'proof' is that the police says so? the police system that is itself the most prolific organised group of hate-criminals in the country, if not the entire world? ok m8

Do you really believe the bolded bit?

yes…? the fact of the police system's organised viciousness towards black people (and other minority groups, to a lesser extent) really oughtn't be at all controversial.

[SUSAN CRUSHBONE]

so in three of your four claimed hoaxes, the entirety of your 'proof' is that the police says so? the police system that is itself the most prolific organised group of hate-criminals in the country, if not the entire world? ok m8

Do you really believe the bolded bit?

yes…? the fact of the police system's organised viciousness towards black people (and other minority groups, to a lesser extent) really oughtn't be at all controversial.

Actually it is. In any event, while you have a right to your point of view of course,  I expect you to be civil to posters who disagree with you.

and here we go again with the conflation of ~*~people who disagree with you~*~ and fascists

'm perfectly capable of beïng civil to people who have bad taste in music or w/e, but, as you know perfectly well, this goes well beyond that