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SUSAN CRUSHBONE
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« on: December 14, 2016, 04:48:12 PM »

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« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2016, 05:31:25 PM »

most people just don't get what fake news are.

To the mainstream media fake news is political news that they disagree with. You can't stop "fake news" without sh*tting on freedom of speech.

pizza-gate is fake news and all similar news are fake too.

and more important than "fake news" are "fake news sources".

if a major newspaper makes a mistake it corrects itself or you find another take by another real newspaper.

there is no source, no correction and no responsibility for sites like infowars, prison planet, etc.....easy as that.

There is a such thing as freedom of speech and you can't shut them Infowars,Prison Planet,World Net Daily or Breitbart because you disagree with it.
question: does freedom of speech apply to putting false information on food labels and the like?
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« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2016, 05:34:55 PM »

most people just don't get what fake news are.

To the mainstream media fake news is political news that they disagree with. You can't stop "fake news" without sh*tting on freedom of speech.

pizza-gate is fake news and all similar news are fake too.

and more important than "fake news" are "fake news sources".

if a major newspaper makes a mistake it corrects itself or you find another take by another real newspaper.

there is no source, no correction and no responsibility for sites like infowars, prison planet, etc.....easy as that.

There is a such thing as freedom of speech and you can't shut them Infowars,Prison Planet,World Net Daily or Breitbart because you disagree with it.
question: does freedom of speech apply to putting false information on food labels and the like?

Not the same thing and just because you disagree with what it said that doesn't make it false.
do explain what you believe the difference to be (and also answer the question kthx)
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SUSAN CRUSHBONE
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« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2016, 08:56:59 AM »

most people just don't get what fake news are.

To the mainstream media fake news is political news that they disagree with. You can't stop "fake news" without sh*tting on freedom of speech.

pizza-gate is fake news and all similar news are fake too.

and more important than "fake news" are "fake news sources".

if a major newspaper makes a mistake it corrects itself or you find another take by another real newspaper.

there is no source, no correction and no responsibility for sites like infowars, prison planet, etc.....easy as that.

There is a such thing as freedom of speech and you can't shut them Infowars,Prison Planet,World Net Daily or Breitbart because you disagree with it.

No one wants to shut down your friends' little tabloid sites, sweetheart.

There's certainly a suggestion at it in evergreen's posts.
unfortunately, many of my views are not exactly widespread ㄟ(ツ)ㄏ
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SUSAN CRUSHBONE
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« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2016, 10:46:59 AM »

most people just don't get what fake news are.

To the mainstream media fake news is political news that they disagree with. You can't stop "fake news" without sh*tting on freedom of speech.

pizza-gate is fake news and all similar news are fake too.

and more important than "fake news" are "fake news sources".

if a major newspaper makes a mistake it corrects itself or you find another take by another real newspaper.

there is no source, no correction and no responsibility for sites like infowars, prison planet, etc.....easy as that.

There is a such thing as freedom of speech and you can't shut them Infowars,Prison Planet,World Net Daily or Breitbart because you disagree with it.

No one wants to shut down your friends' little tabloid sites, sweetheart.

There's certainly a suggestion at it in evergreen's posts.
unfortunately, many of my views are not exactly widespread ㄟ(ツ)ㄏ
You actually think that the US government should shut down Trump supporting news outlets like Infowars, Breitbart and the rest. I wonder if a trump adminstration shut down anti Trump news outlets like the new York Times or the Huffington Post if you wouldn't be complaining the loudest.
why does literally every reäctionary fckwit get their moral compass from dril's wise man
truly a mystery for the ages
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« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2016, 12:14:22 PM »

You actually think that the US government should shut down Trump supporting news outlets like Infowars, Breitbart and the rest. I wonder if a trump adminstration shut down anti Trump news outlets like the new York Times or the Huffington Post if you wouldn't be complaining the loudest.
why does literally every reäctionary fckwit get their moral compass from dril's wise man
truly a mystery for the ages
Well I don't think that there are many people who think that HuffPo and the NYT are morally equivalent to Breitbart and Infowars. I think are plenty of people who think the former news outlets to be morally better (mostly liberals) and plenty who think the latter news outlets to be morally better (mostly conservatives). Also I'm sure there are even more who just don't know or don't have an opinion.

The point is that you'd like the government to shut down the right wing news outlets that right wingers (e.g. Breitbart, Infowars) like myself think are better but if any government shut down the left wing news outlets (e.g. HuffPo, NYT) that lefties like yourself think are better you'd probably complain wildly.
no opinion is involved. huffpo and nyt are objectively so far above breitbart and infowars in terms of factuality that they're not reasonably comparable.
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« Reply #6 on: December 16, 2016, 07:00:22 AM »

You actually think that the US government should shut down Trump supporting news outlets like Infowars, Breitbart and the rest. I wonder if a trump adminstration shut down anti Trump news outlets like the new York Times or the Huffington Post if you wouldn't be complaining the loudest.
why does literally every reäctionary fckwit get their moral compass from dril's wise man
truly a mystery for the ages
Well I don't think that there are many people who think that HuffPo and the NYT are morally equivalent to Breitbart and Infowars. I think are plenty of people who think the former news outlets to be morally better (mostly liberals) and plenty who think the latter news outlets to be morally better (mostly conservatives). Also I'm sure there are even more who just don't know or don't have an opinion.

The point is that you'd like the government to shut down the right wing news outlets that right wingers (e.g. Breitbart, Infowars) like myself think are better but if any government shut down the left wing news outlets (e.g. HuffPo, NYT) that lefties like yourself think are better you'd probably complain wildly.
no opinion is involved. huffpo and nyt are objectively so far above breitbart and infowars in terms of factuality that they're not reasonably comparable.

The NYT and Huffington Post were not objective because they were up front with their support for Hillary Clinton.

Context, man. Breitbart is comparable to Salon.
not even
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« Reply #7 on: December 17, 2016, 08:59:30 AM »

EnglishPete, There's no way Breitbart, the favorite platform of the alt-Nazi movement, can be considered objective about those who point out the fallacies of the alt-Nazi movement.

hey y'know if you actually did your damn job you wouldn't have to argue with this guy
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« Reply #8 on: December 17, 2016, 09:53:08 AM »

EnglishPete, There's no way Breitbart, the favorite platform of the alt-Nazi movement, can be considered objective about those who point out the fallacies of the alt-Nazi movement.

hey y'know if you actually did your damn job you wouldn't have to argue with this guy

My job is not to turn this place into an echo chamber.

your job is to enforce the terms of use, which this dude and his ilk routinely blatantly violate
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« Reply #9 on: December 17, 2016, 10:37:42 AM »

EnglishPete, There's no way Breitbart, the favorite platform of the alt-Nazi movement, can be considered objective about those who point out the fallacies of the alt-Nazi movement.

hey y'know if you actually did your damn job you wouldn't have to argue with this guy

My job is not to turn this place into an echo chamber.

your job is to enforce the terms of use, which this dude and his ilk routinely blatantly violate

Perhaps he should start off with you, given that you regularly break the terms of service by posting false ('Hillary won Michigan giys'), defamatory ('Trump is a rapist'/'poster x is a Nazi), innaccurate (see previous), abusive ('reactionary fckwits')

all of those are objectively true

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« Reply #10 on: December 17, 2016, 10:42:03 AM »

plus he did "start off with me".

he mutilated this thread because he was offended that i called murder murder.
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