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Battista Minola 1616
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« on: October 31, 2020, 03:00:41 PM »

OP if forced to choose major-party candidates?

Explanation: Democrat, anti-racist, anti-papist. Smiley
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Battista Minola 1616
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« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2020, 05:52:36 PM »

OP if forced to choose major-party candidates?

Explanation: Democrat, anti-racist, anti-papist. Smiley

Davis got the racist vote.

All Democrats in that era got the racist vote.
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Battista Minola 1616
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E: -5.55, S: -1.57

« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2020, 06:21:46 PM »

OP if forced to choose major-party candidates?

Explanation: Democrat, anti-racist, anti-papist. Smiley

Davis got the racist vote.

All Democrats in that era got the racist vote.

Not so much in the north, see above

I totally agree with what you wrote above actually. I was just refuting the idea that a Davis voter was *especially* racist.
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Battista Minola 1616
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« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2020, 01:46:33 PM »

OP if forced to choose major-party candidates?

Explanation: Democrat, anti-racist, anti-papist. Smiley

Actually I think I'd be a Hughes-Harding-Coolidge-Smith voter (Debs in 1920 and LaFollette in 1924 if third-parties allowed). Since anti-Catholicism in the 1920s came mostly from the Klan rather than Northeasterners, I would've firmly opposed it.

Actually I had no doubts your voting preferences would be exactly like that, but you know I like to trigger you.

By the way, what kind of voter would have feared Al Smith's Catholicism only because of possible ties to Mussolini and Primo de Rivera? It sounds absurd.
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Battista Minola 1616
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E: -5.55, S: -1.57

« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2020, 04:45:31 PM »

OP if forced to choose major-party candidates?

Explanation: Democrat, anti-racist, anti-papist. Smiley

Actually I think I'd be a Hughes-Harding-Coolidge-Smith voter (Debs in 1920 and LaFollette in 1924 if third-parties allowed). Since anti-Catholicism in the 1920s came mostly from the Klan rather than Northeasterners, I would've firmly opposed it.

Actually I had no doubts your voting preferences would be exactly like that, but you know I like to trigger you.

By the way, what kind of voter would have feared Al Smith's Catholicism only because of possible ties to Mussolini and Primo de Rivera? It sounds absurd.

A liberal intellectual voter, as I said, who paid close attention to international affairs. It may sound absurd, but at that point the Catholic Church was still a profoundly illiberal institution in bed with reactionaries and dictators across the world. It wasn't just bigoted Southerners or the Klan who feared that a Catholic in power would bring in theocracy or take orders from the Pope, but secular Northern liberals too. In that spirit the National Liberal League had supported the Blaine Amendment some 50 years earlier. Here's a passage from The Puritan Origins of American Patriotism on just that:

It does not sound absurd that the Church was some sort of illiberal institution; it sounds absurd that a Democrat would vote against Al Smith because of fear he would align the USA to Mussolini or whomever (although to be fair it also sounds absurd that so many people believed Al Smith would have been a literal Pope puppet).
The book passage is interesting. I wonder what North Carolina Yankee thinks about it.

Regarding Catholicism's innate conservatism... I sometimes joke I am a conservative leftist.
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