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TiltsAreUnderrated
Junior Chimp
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« on: June 07, 2020, 10:14:30 PM »

You'd think "hE wIlL dEfY gRaViTy" would have died a little after 2018.
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TiltsAreUnderrated
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #1 on: June 08, 2020, 09:45:44 AM »

If you supported Sanders in 2020 but are now supporting Trump, it's well within people's rights to question how politically sane you are.

You don't have to be insane to be in this position. Most of these are just more drawn to the anti-establishment political aesthetic than to the gritty details of policy, and being drawn to a vague political aesthetic is hardly a trait unique to Sanders-Trump voters. Democrats and Republicans alike rely on people voting for all sorts of reasons wonks might turn their noses up at, but their disdain is no reason not to understand why voters swing (and, as an implication of that, how to persuade them).
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TiltsAreUnderrated
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2020, 09:49:15 AM »

Are you not tired of our terrible leadership in the middle of crises? Are you not tired of rich people running our government? Are you not tired of gridlock and the economic status quo of Reaganomics? Do you really think with a straight face after the chaos of the last few months, Trump is what we need going forward?

I have reservations that Joe Biden is the true change agent but one thing is for sure. He’s far better on policy and more competent than Trump.
Democrats are more for the rich than Trump is. Most people that I know that are Democrats are rich nowadays. The party really isn't a working class party anymore. Democrats base is highly educated, upper middle class voters now. Trump is the only President in my lifetime to stand up to China and to literally focus on bringing jobs back. He said America first. It sounds silly to a lot but those were powerful words to me and I am sure a lot of Americans, not just Republicans. He did get 12% of Bernie voters.

You honestly think Joe Biden who has been in office for 50 years can change the gridlock in DC and can be an agent of change? It just sounds ridiculous. Trump is a shake up to the system. It's a fact. You may not like that shake up but he has shaken up the system which is why so many people can't stand him. Democrats pretend to be for change when they aren't. Hillary was literally the most status quo candidate to ever run for office probably.

Outside of the first two lines, I don’t really disagree. I have reservations on Biden (though my gridlock comment was more directed at Spark in particular since he presumably wants a Democratic Senate based on his avatar color) and I do question whether he is the needed shake up or strong enough on trade (where I at least occasionally agree with Trump if you want to be nice) or even issues like financial regulation. But Trump tried to throw 30 million people off their health care, and in his first year passed a multi trillion dollar tax cut, left us woefully unprepared for a pandemic that will likely result in extending an admittedly unavoidable recession, is guilty of corruption with regards to his businesses, and has lacked competence in the aftermath of Floyd’s death. Joe Biden has not.
Biden doesn't have it though. He clearly is getting senile. Just look at all the gaffes he is making and he is slurring his speech a lot. He didn't used to do that that much. This isn't Joe Biden 2012 who at least had it somewhat on the ball. On health care, Trump should have come up with his own bill and not just argued for overturning Obamacare he should have had his own plan so that was a mistake. Trump is going to have the economic argument that he built a great economy or at least accelerated an already existing good economy, was hampered by the virus and now it is coming back. That is a powerful argument. The 401ks going up and retirement accounts going up should be enough for him to win Florida (lot of old people) so it will come down the Midwest where Trump again has a strong argument on the economy. I don't think Biden is a strong enough candidate to win.
Must suck to be down 14 to someone who is senile 😂😂😂
He's not down 14 more like 4-6 but keep thinking that. Trump is going to turn this around and win. I love the complacency and overconfidence of democrats right now
If the overconfidence is so uniform, then they have unlocked a key to beating a Republican incumbent: D E M S  I N  A R R A Y
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