Official 2023 General Election Results Thread

[DaleCooper]

It is concerning to see Democrats skipping minority outreach in favor of resist liberal whites. I get that it's tough to argue with their post-Dobbs track record, and tonight will shed more light on that, but there's no reason to give up on minority outreach.

[DaleCooper]

It is concerning to see Democrats skipping minority outreach in favor of resist liberal whites. I get that it's tough to argue with their post-Dobbs track record, and tonight will shed more light on that, but there's no reason to give up on minority outreach.

Where is the evidence of that happening? If anything in Ohio, I just think it's likely that those areas just have more high propensity voters. I don't think there was an effort to outreach one group over the other.

That's certainly possible.

[DaleCooper]

It is concerning to see Democrats skipping minority outreach in favor of resist liberal whites. I get that it's tough to argue with their post-Dobbs track record, and tonight will shed more light on that, but there's no reason to give up on minority outreach.

Maybe Black Democrats just aren't as pro-choice as White Democrats

That's probably a factor, but you'd think they'd still be interested in voting on the issue. It's not the only thing on the ballot either.

[DaleCooper]

It is concerning to see Democrats skipping minority outreach in favor of resist liberal whites. I get that it's tough to argue with their post-Dobbs track record, and tonight will shed more light on that, but there's no reason to give up on minority outreach.

Black turnout often craters in off-year elections like this, nothing new. Also black voters aren't monotholically pro-chocie.

I know, but you'd think with a little effort the Democrats could do better than 6% is all I am saying.

[DaleCooper]

Wait until we get a county with 75+% in before getting sad or excited folks

If it's the election day vote then it's over for Cameron.

If it's the early vote then Beshear is in trouble.

I'm not sure about either of those things. Idk if there even is that much of a difference between early/ED vote in some of these deep red rural counties.

I'm not sure why people still think early vote is as dramatic a difference as 2020. Resist libs scared of COVID probably don't even exist in those counties anyway, lol.

[DaleCooper]

Wait until we get a county with 75+% in before getting sad or excited folks

If it's the election day vote then it's over for Cameron.

If it's the early vote then Beshear is in trouble.

I'm not sure about either of those things. Idk if there even is that much of a difference between early/ED vote in some of these deep red rural counties.

I'm not sure why people still think early vote is as dramatic a difference as 2020. Resist libs scared of COVID probably don't even exist in those counties anyway, lol.

Dramatic difference, perhaps not. But it certainly makes a difference and I'd like to see at least a few counties finished before we make a declaration either way as to how much or what it portends.

I want more results too but it would have be a pretty staggering difference between early and election day vote for these numbers to be bad news for Beshear.

[DaleCooper]

Beshear +22 in Breathitt County with 83%. Was Beshear +2 in 2019.

That almost seems like a glitch.

[DaleCooper]

Do we think racism might be a little at play with some of these massive rural swings to Beshear?

I was kind of afraid to ask this...

But do you notice Republicans can nominate some people of color but essentially NONE of them ever win a general? Cameron, Beshear, Walker, Elder....it's almost like there's a pattern.

Lynn Swann getting absolutely obliterated in PA in 2004

*2006

Right, sorry

Apology not accepted!

[DaleCooper]

This was obvious for awhile. Idk why Dems were so panicked over this one.

The polls did narrow in the last week.

The panic was all surrounding the obviously fake Emerson poll.

[DaleCooper]

Can we all now just agree that Cameron was a pretty weak candidate? Yes, Beshear is popular and strong, but Cameron made quite a few missteps on the campaign trail that certainly didn't help him.

And yet he was probably still the best nominee possible for the GOP. Craft would have collapsed even worse.

How bad is the Kentucky GOP if he is the best option? McConnell's Republican Party is dead. Nobody likes them and the longer they fail to realize this, the more elections they'll lose.

[DaleCooper]

Where are all the doomers claiming that the LA race would matter for KY? LOL

Deceased.

[DaleCooper]

https://twitter.com/NBCPolitics/status/1722067523653308585

Hope causing your hometown to burn down out was worth it, bitch!

We really dodged a bullet with Cameron losing. I have no doubt that the McConnell wing of the GOP would've forced him into the Senate, where he would've remained for life, had he won tonight.

[DaleCooper]

As expected, CNN is going with the "this race has nothing to do with 2024" messaging for the KY win

To be fair, that's pretty much true. A lot of KY voters who will vote for Trump next year, voted for Beshear this year.

They’d be saying the complete opposite if this went the other way

Dana Bash made a joke about this. But still wouldn't fully admit that now that Dems are doing good, that it's in any way good news for Dems.

Biden could win re-election with a Democratic Senate and House and I'm sure people would still be saying it's not good news for him. *looks at SnowLabrador*

To be fair he would just continue talking about how they were still going to lose even after all the races have been called because not all the rural vote is counted. I don't think he'd say that winning the Presidency, House, and Senate is bad for Democrats. It's the pundit class, especially CNN, that would spin it and say that Tester only winning by 3,000 votes is a sign that Ossoff is vulnerable in 2026 or something stupid like that.

[DaleCooper]

If we had a younger, more charismatic and popular president, I would be predicting based on this year and last year's results that 2024 would be the biggest landslide since 1996.

Do you at least admit Biden isn’t doomed anymore?

I don't think he's doomed, but I do think it's incredibly foolish to risk 2024 just to appease an 80-year-old that most Democrats aren't particularly attached to.

[DaleCooper]

Seriously though, why does CNN have such a hate boner for Biden?

They’re probably trying to get in the good graces of the GOP after criticizing accurately reporting on Trump’s presidency

They need Trump. A second Trump presidency is the only way that these networks can survive the rest of this decade. It's existential for them.

[DaleCooper]

If we had a younger, more charismatic and popular president, I would be predicting based on this year and last year's results that 2024 would be the biggest landslide since 1996.

Do you at least admit Biden isn’t doomed anymore?

I don't think he's doomed, but I do think it's incredibly foolish to risk 2024 just to appease an 80-year-old that most Democrats aren't particularly attached to.

I would basically agree with this. I think this will be a close race with Biden, would be an easy win with a younger and more popular Dem.

Right, and there's no reason to risk it. I think a candidate like Beshear, Whitmer, or Shapiro would easily win and probably have at least a 50/50 shot at keeping the Senate. Why throw that away? This isn't like an Obama or (ironically) a Trump situation where the base is deeply in love with the incumbent, as long as Biden is dropped gently and respectfully, no Democrats will be offended.

[DaleCooper]

Ohio issues 1 and 2 are at almost exactly the same margin, but abortion is much more polarized by urban vs rural than marijuana.

Almost no one other than old out of touch people supports weed criminalization anymore.

[DaleCooper]

It's not like the state of Virginia is California or Hawaii. It may be a blue state, but the legislature is competitive and Republicans lost it (including a chamber they controlled before) under what you guys love to remind us is one of the most unpopular Democratic presidents in history. Not to mention Youngkin and his agenda are supposed to be popular. Definitely a bad night for the GOP and it's a bad sign for the Virginia GOP in particular.

[DaleCooper]

I find it hard to see Republicans winning the North Carolina governor election next year. For as much as voters in conservative states apparently still love the Trump freak show for the presidency, they do not seem to want it in the governor's mansion. I'm basing this off of Beshear and the 2022 results.