Jeffrey Epstein, accused sex trafficker, dies by suicide: Officials

[DaleCooper]

Is it really that impossible to believe that some rich bastard would kill himself once he finally got held accountable for his crimes?

[DaleCooper]

Is it really that impossible to believe that some rich bastard would kill himself once he finally got held accountable for his crimes?

It’s not impossible, but at the very least, measures were taken to ensure he’d be allowed to.

That's possible too, but it's certainly not "the very least" of the possibilities. I know that prison guards are famously the most competent workers America has to offer, but even they make mistakes.

My point is, none of Epstein crap is difficult to believe. We don't need braindead Q people to decipher it for us. There's hundreds of thousands, if not millions of creeps in this country. Epstein was one of them, and he like everyone else had friends and connections, some of whom may have been involved but many of whom weren't. Then he killed himself once his crimes were made manifest.

[DaleCooper]

Is it really that impossible to believe that some rich bastard would kill himself once he finally got held accountable for his crimes?

Of course it’s not impossible, but when a sex trafficker who are connected to much of the political and economic elite dies of suicide under questionable circumstances, ones first reaction should not be “well I guess that’s it”.

That wasn't my first nor my only reaction. I'm just saying that I don't think it's hard to believe at all, based on what we know, that Epstein killed himself. There are plenty of bad people that choose suicide over punishment when they finally get cornered. Hitler comes to mind too. Not every villain is an evil genius.

Also, I have no doubt that some of Epstein's powerful friends took part in his sexual crimes, but I have little patience for all the talk of "This person was photographed standing next to Epstein!!" nonsense. He was a prominent figure, so he showed up next to other prominent people in his world. There's photos of Bill Cosby standing next to pretty much everybody in the TV and Hollywood worlds. There's photos of perverted teachers or coaches standing with the rest of the school staff. It doesn't mean everyone is involved.

I'm open to the idea that foul play was involved in Epstein's death. However, I'm getting tired of people weaponizing Epstein's crimes to push their stupid political conspiracies, which is what resurrected this thread in the first place. 

[DaleCooper]

I’m reasonably confident that Epstein did in fact kill himself.
But I also think it’s more likely than not that people were paid off to make it easier for him to do this.

This is the most likely of the theories, in my opinion, but even if it's the case I suspect it would by far be more likely that one of Epstein's representatives (i.e. a no-name personal lawyer) made this transaction at the request of Epstein himself. The idea that a powerful celebrity or politician would do this seems silly and implausible.