COVID-19 Megathread 5: The Trumps catch COVID-19

[Amanda Huggenkiss]

More assaults by people who love freedom. Two teenage employees of McDonald’s were shot by people upset the restaurant was take-out only.

https://www.koco.com/article/suspects-in-custody-after-2-employees-shot-at-mcdonalds-in-southwest-okc-police-say/32395365#

The Founding Fathers would be so proud of this use of the Second Amendment.

It is beyond my understanding how a country just assumes that incidents like these just happen once in a while because the Founding Fathers were apparently some infallible demi-gods whose opinions can never be questioned, never.

[Amanda Huggenkiss]

There's going to be maybe no more than 200 cases per day nationwide by september, I see no reason why any measures are necessary at all at that point in time.

What makes you say that?

[Amanda Huggenkiss]

There's going to be maybe no more than 200 cases per day nationwide by september, I see no reason why any measures are necessary at all at that point in time.

What makes you say that?

By that point the virus would have been blasted by summer heat for three months.

There is absolutely no proof that summer heat will have a considerable influence on the spread of the virus. On the other hand, the virus has already spread in places with hotter and more humid wheather. There is no indication that summer weather will help us.

[Amanda Huggenkiss]

There's going to be maybe no more than 200 cases per day nationwide by september, I see no reason why any measures are necessary at all at that point in time.

What makes you say that?

By that point the virus would have been blasted by summer heat for three months.

There is absolutely no proof that summer heat will have a considerable influence on the spread of the virus. On the other hand, the virus has already spread in places with hotter and more humid wheather. There is no indication that summer weather will help us.

The truth here is probably somewhere in the middle (as it usually is).  There is some evidence that UV rays and higher temperature & humidity shorten the virus's survival time.  But neither does it wipe it out completely, as shown by Singapore and other examples.

Yes, it is possible that summer will slow it down. But there is no indication that 200 new cases per day is a reasonable number that could be reached with summer heat (while states begin to re-open!), especially when the US is still at 15,000 to 25,000 cases per day.

[Amanda Huggenkiss]

America is great at handling stuff like this, albeit only in movies.

Unfortunately, Trump resembles President Whitmore from Independence Day less than he resembles President Camacho from Idiocracy.

[Amanda Huggenkiss]

I'm as against Trump as anyone else is, but even a broken clock is right twice a day. Our schools and colleges have to come back pretty much like normal. Have to.

I've known quite a few teachers who say they can't do their jobs as long as distance learning and extreme social distancing remain in force.

That works if you have somehow contained the virus and reduced new cases to an overseeable number.
But the problem of the US has never been that the lockdown rules have been in place for too long, the problem of the US has always been that the lockdown rules have been lifted too early.