Chief Pollster of Trafalgar Predicts Trump Wins the Election (user search)
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« on: October 23, 2020, 09:29:15 PM »

Trafalgar is only right when Rs outperform polling, they were 10 points off in GA in 2018, so much for that argument, were 4% off in AZ-SEN, 8% off in NV-SEN, 7% off in TX-SEN, and so on. Guessing the correct answer on a multiple choice test that everyone else got wrong doesn't make me a genius, and this seems to be what's going on here with Trafalgar, since when you look at their methodology, it seems like they try hard to subtly manipulate the numbers to reach the output they want, as Silver said.

If he's right, he's right, but if he's wrong, he's wrong, we just have to wait and see.
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« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2020, 10:28:12 PM »

I just don't see the "social desirability" theory playing out, because what Trump supporters are shy or secretive about admitting they like Trump? They tend to be loud and proud and under the impression that everyone else is too.

Maybe it’s a strategic move. Hide from the pollsters so Democrats won’t be prepared to deal with them.

In order for that to pan out, Trump supporters would actually have to answer the polls, say they didn't vote in 2016, voted 3rd party in 2016, or voted for Clinton, but will be voting for Trump come 2020. Right now, we see very few Clinton - Trump voters in polls. If they answered Trump - Trump, they're counted the same as any other Trump supporter, and if they don't answer, the pollster will still end up weighting by 2016 vote share (which if anything, likely lowers Biden's share in the polls since D turnout was bad in 2016 and early vote suggests better news turnout wise). Idk, but I just find it hard to believe enough Trump supporters are doing this to have any meaningful statistical impact on polls that isn't already being corrected
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