2008- Kerry/Bayh vs. Huckabee/Pawlenty

[Workers' Friend]

Something like that. Sounds like a pretty miserable first term for Kerry.

That map strangely, but predictably, gives me a boner.

Pretty accurate map.

[Workers' Friend]

Something like that. Sounds like a pretty miserable first term for Kerry.

That map strangely, but predictably, gives me a boner.

Pretty accurate map.

Well...that's more information than I needed.

If that was too much info ... Excuse my language and I apologize sir.

[Workers' Friend]

Something like that. Sounds like a pretty miserable first term for Kerry.

I would flip New Hampshire and Minnesota, but that's just me.

Minnesota should be fillped, but not New Hampshire, NH is too Libertine.

[Workers' Friend]

Something like that. Sounds like a pretty miserable first term for Kerry.

I would flip New Hampshire and Minnesota, but that's just me.

Minnesota should be fillped, but not New Hampshire, NH is too Libertine.

Generally I agree with you, the idea of NH voting for Huckabee is a stretch, but given the landslide proportions of this election, I think Huck would pull it out. Just my opinion.

True, it depends how truly sucky Kerry is. Also another question, if PA swings to Huckabee, is there a possibility that he also wins NJ? Those 2 states often vote the same way.

[Workers' Friend]

Something like that. Sounds like a pretty miserable first term for Kerry.

I would flip New Hampshire and Minnesota, but that's just me.

Minnesota should be fillped, but not New Hampshire, NH is too Libertine.

Generally I agree with you, the idea of NH voting for Huckabee is a stretch, but given the landslide proportions of this election, I think Huck would pull it out. Just my opinion.

True, it depends how truly sucky Kerry is. Also another question, if PA swings to Huckabee, is there a possibility that he also wins NJ? Those 2 states often vote the same way.

I suppose it's possible, but I wouldn't put money on it.

I know this friend from NJ called Uncle Mike, he says that wherever PA goes, NJ probably goes as well, he also said that was the same with NY, but with a lesser extent.

[Workers' Friend]

Something like that. Sounds like a pretty miserable first term for Kerry.

I would flip New Hampshire and Minnesota, but that's just me.

Minnesota should be fillped, but not New Hampshire, NH is too Libertine.

Generally I agree with you, the idea of NH voting for Huckabee is a stretch, but given the landslide proportions of this election, I think Huck would pull it out. Just my opinion.

True, it depends how truly sucky Kerry is. Also another question, if PA swings to Huckabee, is there a possibility that he also wins NJ? Those 2 states often vote the same way.

I suppose it's possible, but I wouldn't put money on it.

I know this friend from NJ called Uncle Mike, he says that wherever PA goes, NJ probably goes as well, he also said that was the same with NY, but with a lesser extent.

Well considering Michigan is going to Huckabee in this scenario, NJ would definitely be in contention. I think the real factor would be how the economic crisis would be perceived in this world, whether it would be blamed on Regan/Bush deregulation, failure of the Kerry administration to adequately regulate the financial sector, or if Kerry would be blamed simply because he was in office. My guess would be a mixture of all three, in which case Huckabee's campaign for "Governor of America" would definitely appeal to workers in Michigan and Pennsylvania, while New Jersey's combo of blue collar workers and New York commuters could really send the state either way. My gut says NJ would stay in Kerry's column, but I have of course been wrong in the past, and will continue to be.

True, I also wonder how WA and OR would react in this scenario, as they were close for a very short amount of time in OTL.

[Workers' Friend]

Something like that. Sounds like a pretty miserable first term for Kerry.

I would flip New Hampshire and Minnesota, but that's just me.

Minnesota should be fillped, but not New Hampshire, NH is too Libertine.

Generally I agree with you, the idea of NH voting for Huckabee is a stretch, but given the landslide proportions of this election, I think Huck would pull it out. Just my opinion.

True, it depends how truly sucky Kerry is. Also another question, if PA swings to Huckabee, is there a possibility that he also wins NJ? Those 2 states often vote the same way.

I suppose it's possible, but I wouldn't put money on it.

I know this friend from NJ called Uncle Mike, he says that wherever PA goes, NJ probably goes as well, he also said that was the same with NY, but with a lesser extent.

Well considering Michigan is going to Huckabee in this scenario, NJ would definitely be in contention. I think the real factor would be how the economic crisis would be perceived in this world, whether it would be blamed on Regan/Bush deregulation, failure of the Kerry administration to adequately regulate the financial sector, or if Kerry would be blamed simply because he was in office. My guess would be a mixture of all three, in which case Huckabee's campaign for "Governor of America" would definitely appeal to workers in Michigan and Pennsylvania, while New Jersey's combo of blue collar workers and New York commuters could really send the state either way. My gut says NJ would stay in Kerry's column, but I have of course been wrong in the past, and will continue to be.

True, I also wonder how WA and OR would react in this scenario, as they were close for a very short amount of time in OTL.

I feel that Oregon and Washington's brief closeness in this election can be attributed to McCain's appeal to independents and his environmental record, both of which Huckabee lacks. These blue states go to Kerry.

I see, so, is there anything else needed to be discussed?

[Workers' Friend]

Something like that. Sounds like a pretty miserable first term for Kerry.

I would flip New Hampshire and Minnesota, but that's just me.

Minnesota should be fillped, but not New Hampshire, NH is too Libertine.

Generally I agree with you, the idea of NH voting for Huckabee is a stretch, but given the landslide proportions of this election, I think Huck would pull it out. Just my opinion.

True, it depends how truly sucky Kerry is. Also another question, if PA swings to Huckabee, is there a possibility that he also wins NJ? Those 2 states often vote the same way.

I suppose it's possible, but I wouldn't put money on it.

I know this friend from NJ called Uncle Mike, he says that wherever PA goes, NJ probably goes as well, he also said that was the same with NY, but with a lesser extent.

Well considering Michigan is going to Huckabee in this scenario, NJ would definitely be in contention. I think the real factor would be how the economic crisis would be perceived in this world, whether it would be blamed on Regan/Bush deregulation, failure of the Kerry administration to adequately regulate the financial sector, or if Kerry would be blamed simply because he was in office. My guess would be a mixture of all three, in which case Huckabee's campaign for "Governor of America" would definitely appeal to workers in Michigan and Pennsylvania, while New Jersey's combo of blue collar workers and New York commuters could really send the state either way. My gut says NJ would stay in Kerry's column, but I have of course been wrong in the past, and will continue to be.

True, I also wonder how WA and OR would react in this scenario, as they were close for a very short amount of time in OTL.

I feel that Oregon and Washington's brief closeness in this election can be attributed to McCain's appeal to independents and his environmental record, both of which Huckabee lacks. These blue states go to Kerry.

I see, so, is there anything else needed to be discussed?

Well, if New Jersey does go to Huckabee, does Deleware?

Maybe, but I am not completely sure. Are those 2 states similar in voting trend?

[Workers' Friend]

Something like that. Sounds like a pretty miserable first term for Kerry.

I would flip New Hampshire and Minnesota, but that's just me.

Minnesota should be fillped, but not New Hampshire, NH is too Libertine.

Generally I agree with you, the idea of NH voting for Huckabee is a stretch, but given the landslide proportions of this election, I think Huck would pull it out. Just my opinion.

True, it depends how truly sucky Kerry is. Also another question, if PA swings to Huckabee, is there a possibility that he also wins NJ? Those 2 states often vote the same way.

I suppose it's possible, but I wouldn't put money on it.

I know this friend from NJ called Uncle Mike, he says that wherever PA goes, NJ probably goes as well, he also said that was the same with NY, but with a lesser extent.

Well considering Michigan is going to Huckabee in this scenario, NJ would definitely be in contention. I think the real factor would be how the economic crisis would be perceived in this world, whether it would be blamed on Regan/Bush deregulation, failure of the Kerry administration to adequately regulate the financial sector, or if Kerry would be blamed simply because he was in office. My guess would be a mixture of all three, in which case Huckabee's campaign for "Governor of America" would definitely appeal to workers in Michigan and Pennsylvania, while New Jersey's combo of blue collar workers and New York commuters could really send the state either way. My gut says NJ would stay in Kerry's column, but I have of course been wrong in the past, and will continue to be.

True, I also wonder how WA and OR would react in this scenario, as they were close for a very short amount of time in OTL.

I feel that Oregon and Washington's brief closeness in this election can be attributed to McCain's appeal to independents and his environmental record, both of which Huckabee lacks. These blue states go to Kerry.

I see, so, is there anything else needed to be discussed?

Well, if New Jersey does go to Huckabee, does Deleware?

Maybe, but I am not completely sure. Are those 2 states similar in voting trend?

They've voted together since 1980, and had similar percentages in '04. DE and PA have voted together since '72. I have no reason to believe DE would vote for Huckabee, simply conjecture.

I guess that it is a good possibility then. What about Maryland?