Are Obama's spending cut proposals as real as a $3.00 bill? (user search)
       |           

Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?
June 16, 2024, 12:18:58 AM
News: Election Simulator 2.0 Released. Senate/Gubernatorial maps, proportional electoral votes, and more - Read more

  Talk Elections
  General Politics
  U.S. General Discussion (Moderators: The Dowager Mod, Chancellor Tanterterg)
  Are Obama's spending cut proposals as real as a $3.00 bill? (search mode)
Pages: [1]
Author Topic: Are Obama's spending cut proposals as real as a $3.00 bill?  (Read 751 times)
anvi
anvikshiki
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 4,400
Netherlands


« on: July 07, 2011, 12:50:43 PM »
« edited: July 07, 2011, 12:52:35 PM by anvikshiki »

So, basically, the point of Capretta's piece is that it's not how much we cut spending on Medicare and Medicaid that matters, but rather that we make sure the spending cuts effect beneficiaries instead of providers.  Otherwise, as Capretta and Torie infer, the spending cuts to these programs wont be in "real" dollars.

Okay.
Logged
anvi
anvikshiki
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 4,400
Netherlands


« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2011, 01:05:02 PM »

No, I'm not assuming that providers make excess profits.  I'm just saying that I thought the point of the piece you linked was that one kind of Medicare spending cut, namely cutting payments to providers, is fake savings and the other kind of Medicare spending cut, curbing benefits to patients, is genuine savings.  In addition, it seemed that Capretta himself, or at least some of the other short essays he linked to, was arguing against Medicare of Medicaid making any decisions about which treatments should be paid for and which not, which was one of the reasons for his support of Lieberman-Coburn.  In any case, it seems to me that Capretta is not really arguing about budget cuts per se anymore, but about how to reform Medicare and Medicaid, and in so doing, urging GOP lawmakers not to accept any cuts that are in "fake" dollars.
Logged
anvi
anvikshiki
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 4,400
Netherlands


« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2011, 01:27:02 PM »
« Edited: July 07, 2011, 01:29:27 PM by anvikshiki »

Most of the essay seems devoted to discussing the entitlement stuff, and it all came at the end, which is perhaps why it captured my attention.  

There is a paragraph that makes an insinuation about tax hikes toward the beginning, using the 1990 Bush 41 episode as a reminder, but it doesn't specify which taxes Obama is threatening to raise.  It was my understanding, at least as of this morning, that beyond lowering an itemized deduction cap on the top 2.5% of income earners, the only tax changes Obama might be seeking are on certain corporate deductions, LIFO and some oil and gas subsidies.

http://www.npr.org/2011/07/07/137656487/lets-make-a-debt-ceiling-deal

I know the GOP wants to change the rates instead, and I'm sympathetic to that part of their agenda.  But my bet is that both sides are going to want to leave that on the table for the '12 race.  Holding up a budget-deal/debt ceiling bill for that now might be, I don't disagree, good policy, but, as you noted when we talked a few days ago, it is silly season, and will be for at least another year and a half.  Sad
 
Logged
Pages: [1]  
Jump to:  


Login with username, password and session length

Terms of Service - DMCA Agent and Policy - Privacy Policy and Cookies

Powered by SMF 1.1.21 | SMF © 2015, Simple Machines

Page created in 0.02 seconds with 12 queries.