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Question: How do you vote on the three amendments
#1
Yea on First
 
#2
Nay on First
 
#3
Abstain on First
 
#4
Yea on Second
 
#5
Nay on Second
 
#6
Abstain on Second
 
#7
Yea on Third
 
#8
Nay on Third
 
#9
Abstain on Third
 
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Total Voters: 53

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Author Topic: Public Vote on Constitutional Amendments  (Read 12374 times)
Peter
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,030


Political Matrix
E: -0.77, S: -7.48

« on: November 14, 2004, 02:34:25 PM »

For a discussion of the necessity of the first two amendments, click HERE
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Peter
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,030


Political Matrix
E: -0.77, S: -7.48

« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2004, 07:42:15 PM »

This is the way the Amendments have always been passed in the past - via public polls. I admit its not an ideal situation, but I have no control over it.
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Peter
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,030


Political Matrix
E: -0.77, S: -7.48

« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2004, 04:17:07 AM »

Amendment 1 is the one that should really be defeated, from my perspective (after going over it throughly), it just gives more and more and more and more and more power to the legislative branch.

The legislative branch is meant to be the most powerful branch, and frankly, given the Courts last performance, I don't want any more antics from you - this is a good way to control you via Constitutional process.

I have some concern with section 4 of amendment 1. What does it mean for a law to "explicitly contradict" the Constitution? As I read it, this would mean that all laws are assumed to be Constitutional unless they can definitively be proven otherwise. Am I correct in my interpretation of this?

Correct. Note that this is the situation in the real world also - people must prove how a law violates their rights before it gets struck by the Courts. It will also stop the Court drawing on external sources of Law to strike laws.
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Peter
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 6,030


Political Matrix
E: -0.77, S: -7.48

« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2004, 06:00:11 PM »

As stated in JFKs Original Post, voting ends one week after opening, which is on 21st November.
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Peter
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 6,030


Political Matrix
E: -0.77, S: -7.48

« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2004, 01:01:53 PM »

Well thats a wrap kids:

Supreme Court Jurisdiction and Authority Amendment:
For - 45
Against - 8
Abstein - 3

Supremacy of the Constitution and Federal Law Amendment:
For - 41
Against - 13
Abstein - 2

Organized Party Amendment
For -  33
Against - 17
Abstein - 6
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