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Earth
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« on: December 06, 2010, 12:53:03 PM »

This is very weird conception of liberalism; it is already complacent, and already centrist as if it were a hot, new disease to catch. Your conception of liberalism essentially wants to offer nothing besides what the Democratic Party is already known, and reviled for; pragmatism, lukewarm democratic socialist ideas filtered through a veneer of capitalism-friendly policies. Modern American Liberalism wants to exist within a vacuum, but it's not something we can afford, it's a remnant of post-war middle-class idealism.

My main question to you is why should liberalism even be taken seriously when there are ideologies better suited for people? Modern liberalism can't even stem the tide of the right wing, let alone be a shining example of American politics.
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Earth
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Political Matrix
E: -9.61, S: -9.83

« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2010, 05:33:42 AM »
« Edited: December 07, 2010, 05:35:17 AM by Earth »


Low Toryism mixed with certain post-war/cold war economic/sociological/etc fads carried out by people who deluded themselves into believing that they were, in fact, liberals after all. There's been some great work on this subject over the past decade or so.

I have to stress Thatcher's neoliberalism, and neoliberalism in general, are liberal ideologies. Liberalize the market, essentially. They come from the same ideological pool. Considering this, it's not nearly a stretch to see the Obama administration in the same light, albeit with a veneer of social consciousness, which is liberalism.

Modern corporatist liberalism, and it's offshoots are the extensions of the paradigm shift in the age of enlightenment applied to modern social conditions. All the good, the permissiveness, the subtle anti-binary thinking, the focus on welfare, plus all of it's evils.
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