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[RI]

Governments shouldn't murder their citizens.  Citizens should murder their governments.

How about nobody murders anybody?

[RI]

I believe that every sapient individual has a fundamental right to life, something that no government can rightfully take away.

So governments aren't sapient to you, I take it?

[RI]

I believe that every sapient individual has a fundamental right to life, something that no government can rightfully take away.

So governments aren't sapient to you, I take it?

Well, government isn't a sapient individual, as it isn't an individual.

Shocking. I wasn't aware of that. *facepalm*

FallenMorgan specifically said that he wanted citizens to "murder their governments." You can't possibly murder an institution, you can only murder people. You can abolish, end, or reform  an institution, but you can't murder it. In order to "murder" a government, you'd have to murder the people who make up that government. From Morgan's argument, it sounds like he wants citizens to murder their legislators. If he meant otherwise, he should have used less extreme and more socially accepted language. By his logic that sapient individuals have to right to life, but legislators should be murdered implies that he doesn't think legislators are sapient.

[RI]

I believe that every sapient individual has a fundamental right to life, something that no government can rightfully take away.

So governments aren't sapient to you, I take it?

Well, government isn't a sapient individual, as it isn't an individual.

Shocking. I wasn't aware of that. *facepalm*

FallenMorgan specifically said that he wanted citizens to "murder their governments." You can't possibly murder an institution, you can only murder people. You can abolish, end, or reform  an institution, but you can't murder it. In order to "murder" a government, you'd have to murder the people who make up that government. From Morgan's argument, it sounds like he wants citizens to murder their legislators. If he meant otherwise, he should have used less extreme and more socially accepted language. By his logic that sapient individuals have to right to life, but legislators should be murdered implies that he doesn't think legislators are sapient.

     It's a figure of speech, you see.

Not one I've ever heard.