Giuliani vs. Clinton - Who wins New York?

[dazzleman]

I think Hillary would win New York in a presidential election, but Giuliani would win most everywhere else.

New York voters don't seem to have a lot of brain wave activity these days.  The state is a pathetic mess, and the voters have effectively made it that way.

[dazzleman]

Clinton.  But only because she represents the WHOLE state.  Giuliani represented only NYC.  And it leans Dem anyway, so I would say Hillary by 3-5%.

I disagree.  Giuliani is more popular outside the city than he is inside the city.  Hillary would beat him in NYC, but he would beat Hillary in the rest of the state.  The relative margins would determine who would win overall.

Without the poison of NYC in the equation, Giuliani would beat Hillary in a walk.

[dazzleman]

I cant wait to see Giuliani talk about family values.

Well, he could say that he followed his heart to a genuine marriage, rather than remain in a sham marriage for the sake of political power.

Truthfully, he'd be seriously disadvantaged in that area, which is why I don't see him getting the nomination.  Republican voters are more morality-based than Democratic voters, and demand a higher level of personal conduct from their candidates, at least with respect to what is publicly known.  Clinton would never have survived his scandal had he been a Republican.