If Hillary gets the nomination in 2008...

[dazzleman]

I wouldn't vote for Hillary no matter who was running against her.  I got a very bad vibe from Hillary the first time I ever laid eyes on her in 1992.

[dazzleman]

I agree that Pataki is a dud as far as political leadership is concerned.  I doubt he would beat Hillary since he has basically become just a pale imitation of a Democrat.  If you like Democrats, you might as well go for the real thing.

I think Giuliani would beat Hillary for the Senate in 2006.  He is an icon in NY, and would cut way into Hillary's base of support.

The question is whether he wants to.  I doubt he really wants to be a Senator.  I could see him as governor, and he may run since I can't believe Pataki would make another run for that office at this point.  Giuliani is more of an executive type.

The party could convince him that, for the good of the country, Hillary must be knocked off, and he could be induced to run on those grounds, in return for some type of payoff later.

I agree that as far as the presidency is concerned, Giuliani has many things that will turn him off to Republican voters in other sections of the country.  However, if the alternative is Hillary and he's the best person to beat her, they may overlook those things and support him, as the lesser of two evils.