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tmthforu94
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« on: October 21, 2009, 06:40:28 PM »

I'm more of a toss-up on this. I think it's a fresh idea, and I thank Frittz for bringing it to the table.
This is just a suggestion, not saying I support it, but what would others think of having the Top 2 candidates for President become President and Vice President?
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tmthforu94
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« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2009, 07:28:48 AM »

Nay
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tmthforu94
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« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2009, 08:07:20 AM »

I'm willing to hear both sides of the debate. While at first, the idea of vice-Senator seemed silly, it actually isn't an awful idea.
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tmthforu94
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« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2009, 12:09:24 PM »

I'm willing to hear both sides of the debate. While at first, the idea of vice-Senator seemed silly, it actually isn't an awful idea.

I'm going to interpret this as siding with Jas' challenge.

So, way to go, Tmth. You just enabled Jas to completely waste the Senate's time with this frivolous and unrelated garbage.

The motion to override my decision as passed.
I thought it needed 1/3 of the Senate?  3 Senators is less than that...
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tmthforu94
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E: -0.26, S: -4.52

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« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2009, 03:26:49 PM »

I'm willing to hear both sides of the debate. While at first, the idea of vice-Senator seemed silly, it actually isn't an awful idea.

I'm going to interpret this as siding with Jas' challenge.

So, way to go, Tmth. You just enabled Jas to completely waste the Senate's time with this frivolous and unrelated garbage.

The motion to override my decision as passed.
I thought it needed 1/3 of the Senate?  3 Senators is less than that...

I believe the PPT doesn't count, making it 3/9.
Ah, that makes sense...

I think it's an intriguing idea. It would certainly change up the game. I just really don't think it is needed.
Jas, why are vice-senators needed?
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tmthforu94
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« Reply #5 on: October 27, 2009, 07:39:47 AM »

Nay
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tmthforu94
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« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2009, 04:06:33 PM »

Basically what Fritz said...Wink
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tmthforu94
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« Reply #7 on: November 05, 2009, 09:17:03 PM »

There are both pro's and con's to this amendment. I think it could provide another exciting election, however, I disagree that it would reduce central party power. If this amendment was implemented a few months ago, and Bacon King and Lief had ran seperately, they both probably still would have won, since I imagine that almost everyone who supported Lief would also support Bacon King, especially if Lief endorsed Bacon King, which he would probably do.

Purple State, you make a great point, but like I said above, people from the same party would win both offices 9/10 of the time.

Ultimately, the con's heavily outweigh the pro's. The only way I think you could balance the powers is have candidates run individually, and the top 2 become President an Vice-President. But I don't think there will be enough support for that in the Senate.

Nay
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