Obama admin to sue BP

[Zarn]

I guess the lefties did not notice that this would be a right-wing approach. Maybe we shouldn't tell them.

[Zarn]

I guess the lefties did not notice that this would be a right-wing approach. Maybe we shouldn't tell them.

What would the lefties do? Take over BP America headquarters?

Have the government do everything for BP and expect nothing in return or nationalize it.

[Zarn]

I guess the lefties did not notice that this would be a right-wing approach. Maybe we shouldn't tell them.

What would the lefties do? Take over BP America headquarters?

Have the government do everything for BP and expect nothing in return

No, that is what Republicans do. They just can't help giving away corporate welfare. The medicare bill of 2006 was the perfect example. It cost as much as Obamacare, while accomplishing jack sh**t. Also giving away TARP money without strings attached was Paulson and Bush's ideas. Although these days Republicans like to pretend they were Democrats?

You are right about the nationalization, but do keep in mind that real leftists don't exist in America outside of a few hobos in people's park.

What a Republican does is not automatically right-wing. That's silly.

[Zarn]

Did I say that? Hopefully you are not trying to imply that either the medicare giveaway or TARP was left-wing. Now that would be silly.

Taking money from anyone, and giving it to someone else is government control. That is left-wing.

[Zarn]

Did I say that? Hopefully you are not trying to imply that either the medicare giveaway or TARP was left-wing. Now that would be silly.

Taking money from anyone, and giving it to someone else is government control. That is left-wing.

But a leftist certainly wouldn't go about it the way Republicans (and Democrats for that matter) do.

The bigger the government, the more left-wing it is.

[Zarn]

The bigger the government, the more left-wing it is.

How can people say such stupid things with such confidence?

That might be, because it is not a stupid thing to say.

[Zarn]

The bigger the government, the more left-wing it is.

How can people say such stupid things with such confidence?

Kind of makes you wish there was a Stupidity Goldmine doesn't it? There's no other place comments like that can properly belong.

Someone thinks a lot of the B they currently have in their history class.

Do you see how inappropriate that looks?

[Zarn]

The bigger the government, the more left-wing it is.

How can people say such stupid things with such confidence?

That might be, because it is not a stupid thing to say.

Since you did not provide any evidence to back up your claim, you presumably realise that it was a stupid thing to say.

China, Cuba, North Korea, USSR... that's big government. That's socialism and communism.

It's not a stupid thing to say.

If I said the sky is blue and didn't back it up, was it stupid to say?

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China, Cuba, North Korea, USSR... that's big government. That's socialism and communism.

None of those countries are or ever have been socialist or communist.

Where's your evidence?

Besides, no one is going to argue that those are right-wing... no one outside of extremists.

[Zarn]

Wait, he forgot to be a moderate hero?

This is right-wing. It removes the responsibility away from the taxpayer.

[Zarn]

The bigger the government, the more left-wing it is.

How can people say such stupid things with such confidence?

That might be, because it is not a stupid thing to say.

Since you did not provide any evidence to back up your claim, you presumably realise that it was a stupid thing to say.

China, Cuba, North Korea, USSR... that's big government. That's socialism and communism.

It's not a stupid thing to say.

If I said the sky is blue and didn't back it up, was it stupid to say?

That doesn't mean that ALL big government equals LEFT WING.
Take for instance Nazi Germany, Mussolini Italy, Pinochet Chile (despite what anti-libertarians want to believe, government isn't small if it actively purges citizens), or France Spain which are commonly identified (by Europeans no less) as being centre or right wing dictatorships. 

Why do you feel such an urge to bring up arguments like this thread after thread Zarn?  It doesn't really matter what "wing" dictators or big government bureaucracies are, just that they are dicks.  Personally I don't think it takes a genius to tell that Mao Zedong, Joseph Stalin, Pol Pot, Adolf Hitler, Benito Mussolini, the Taliban, Augusto Pinochet were all dicks.

Hey I think left wingers are idiots too but I don't resort to calling all examples of bigger government as "left wing".  Besides I thought you were libertarian, so why bother with this kind of futile exercise?  Why defend the right wing and try to portray the Left as the source of all evil in this world?

Sorry if this post pisses you off, but I just find it interesting how hard you defend the Right.

When the French adopted the wings, it started with the right-wing as conservative and left-wing as liberal. However, over time socialism, communism, and other forms of state control economic structures sprang up and took over what was considered left-wing. As a result, the right-wing become the capitalists. Throughout history we have seen handouts that would be seen as left-wing here in the states but were considered to be administrated by right-wing governments (monarchies, dictatorships). There is also control of industry, in say Nazi Germany. Even in war, government overtaking industry is left-wing, no matter the country. If you control the economy, you control the people. That's big government at it's worst. No amount of putting "In God we trust" on currency, teaching intelligent design, or refusing to legalize pot amounts to that. It makes no sense to have dictatorships that act very similarly to be on completely different ends of the spectrum.

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By this logic left-wingers should love Reagan and right-wingers should love Clinton (who scaled back the size of government.)

Reality is strange, isn't it?