For the first time in history

[WMS]

I'm tired of the "southerners are rednecks that democrats shouldn't waste their time on" bullsh**t.

If the Dems could avoid packing their voters so much into those M-M districts, they could probably gain some seats down there.

[WMS]

I'm tired of the "southerners are rednecks that democrats shouldn't waste their time on" bullsh**t.

If the Dems could avoid packing their voters so much into those M-M districts, they could probably gain some seats down there.

Get rid of the VRA of 1965.  I've suggested it many times. 

That was pondered the last time around but then the screams of "racism!" from the truly dreadul far-lefties in the Congressional Black Caucus (and the ones who would fail to win in any district that wasn't D+50 or so ) prevented that from happening.

And both Al and jamespol make good points.

Sanford Bishop > Maxine Waters

[WMS]

I'm tired of the "southerners are rednecks that democrats shouldn't waste their time on" bullsh**t.

If the Dems could avoid packing their voters so much into those M-M districts, they could probably gain some seats down there.

Get rid of the VRA of 1965.  I've suggested it many times. 

That was pondered the last time around but then the screams of "racism!" from the truly dreadul far-lefties in the Congressional Black Caucus (and the ones who would fail to win in any district that wasn't D+50 or so ) prevented that from happening.

And both Al and jamespol make good points.

Sanford Bishop > Maxine Waters

We need to keep the VRA, just amend it a bit.

An amendment VRA could minimize the number of Cynthia McKinney's maxine waters, charlie rangels in congres, while maximize the number of well-respect black and latino congressman, who in turn would make very viable governor or senate candidates.

Or at least apply it to every state and see how many West Coast and Northern Dems get ousted for wingnuts.

Well, that would be a preferable outcome to what exists now.

[WMS]

I'm tired of the "southerners are rednecks that democrats shouldn't waste their time on" bullsh**t.

If the Dems could avoid packing their voters so much into those M-M districts, they could probably gain some seats down there.

Get rid of the VRA of 1965.  I've suggested it many times. 

That was pondered the last time around but then the screams of "racism!" from the truly dreadul far-lefties in the Congressional Black Caucus (and the ones who would fail to win in any district that wasn't D+50 or so ) prevented that from happening.

And both Al and jamespol make good points.

Sanford Bishop > Maxine Waters

We need to keep the VRA, just amend it a bit.

An amendment VRA could minimize the number of Cynthia McKinney's maxine waters, charlie rangels in congres, while maximize the number of well-respect black and latino congressman, who in turn would make very viable governor or senate candidates.

Or at least apply it to every state and see how many West Coast and Northern Dems get ousted for wingnuts.

Well, that would be a preferable outcome to what exists now.

Minority-Majority districts were good in the 70s and 80s I think, but in this modern era, I know plenty of whites who would vote for a minority candidate.

Hell, ford got 40% of the white vote, had he got that in most other southern states, he would have won, due to most southern states having high black protions. After crashing corkers press conference, and beloning to a nutty family hestill got close.  The polls were very accurate for black candidates this year, I do not think such a Black Tax exists now.

Ford ran ahead of Kerry and even gore slightly (both are white BTW)

It all depends on the candidate. Our mutual favorite, Sanford Bishop, has shown that black Southerners can win rural white voters.

Ford ran a good campaign until the closing weeks there...oh well, Corker ain't a nut, so it's not like Ford lost to Saxby Chambliss *shiver*

And Ford is more in tune with TN than Kerry or Gore.

[WMS]

I'm tired of the "southerners are rednecks that democrats shouldn't waste their time on" bullsh**t.

If the Dems could avoid packing their voters so much into those M-M districts, they could probably gain some seats down there.

Get rid of the VRA of 1965.  I've suggested it many times. 

That was pondered the last time around but then the screams of "racism!" from the truly dreadul far-lefties in the Congressional Black Caucus (and the ones who would fail to win in any district that wasn't D+50 or so ) prevented that from happening.

And both Al and jamespol make good points.

Sanford Bishop > Maxine Waters

We need to keep the VRA, just amend it a bit.

An amendment VRA could minimize the number of Cynthia McKinney's maxine waters, charlie rangels in congres, while maximize the number of well-respect black and latino congressman, who in turn would make very viable governor or senate candidates.

Or at least apply it to every state and see how many West Coast and Northern Dems get ousted for wingnuts.

Well, that would be a preferable outcome to what exists now.

Minority-Majority districts were good in the 70s and 80s I think, but in this modern era, I know plenty of whites who would vote for a minority candidate.

Hell, ford got 40% of the white vote, had he got that in most other southern states, he would have won, due to most southern states having high black protions. After crashing corkers press conference, and beloning to a nutty family hestill got close.  The polls were very accurate for black candidates this year, I do not think such a Black Tax exists now.

Ford ran ahead of Kerry and even gore slightly (both are white BTW)

It all depends on the candidate. Our mutual favorite, Sanford Bishop, has shown that black Southerners can win rural white voters.

Ford ran a good campaign until the closing weeks there...oh well, Corker ain't a nut, so it's not like Ford lost to Saxby Chambliss *shiver*

And Ford is more in tune with TN than Kerry or Gore.

I _hate_ press conferences!!! Grrr!!! Ford got too cocky.

Republicans purposely scheduled that press conference, and created a potion and snuck it into fords fancy drink to make him do that! They are soo sneaky

Never get cocky in politics...that's like deliberately invoking the ghost of Murphy.

That would require far more competence on the part of the GOP that I think they're capable of.

[WMS]

I'm tired of the "southerners are rednecks that democrats shouldn't waste their time on" bullsh**t.

If the Dems could avoid packing their voters so much into those M-M districts, they could probably gain some seats down there.

Get rid of the VRA of 1965.  I've suggested it many times. 

That was pondered the last time around but then the screams of "racism!" from the truly dreadul far-lefties in the Congressional Black Caucus (and the ones who would fail to win in any district that wasn't D+50 or so ) prevented that from happening.

And both Al and jamespol make good points.

Sanford Bishop > Maxine Waters

We need to keep the VRA, just amend it a bit.

An amendment VRA could minimize the number of Cynthia McKinney's maxine waters, charlie rangels in congres, while maximize the number of well-respect black and latino congressman, who in turn would make very viable governor or senate candidates.

Or at least apply it to every state and see how many West Coast and Northern Dems get ousted for wingnuts.

Well, that would be a preferable outcome to what exists now.

Minority-Majority districts were good in the 70s and 80s I think, but in this modern era, I know plenty of whites who would vote for a minority candidate.

Hell, ford got 40% of the white vote, had he got that in most other southern states, he would have won, due to most southern states having high black protions. After crashing corkers press conference, and beloning to a nutty family hestill got close.  The polls were very accurate for black candidates this year, I do not think such a Black Tax exists now.

Ford ran ahead of Kerry and even gore slightly (both are white BTW)

It all depends on the candidate. Our mutual favorite, Sanford Bishop, has shown that black Southerners can win rural white voters.

Ford ran a good campaign until the closing weeks there...oh well, Corker ain't a nut, so it's not like Ford lost to Saxby Chambliss *shiver*

And Ford is more in tune with TN than Kerry or Gore.

I _hate_ press conferences!!! Grrr!!! Ford got too cocky.

Republicans purposely scheduled that press conference, and created a potion and snuck it into fords fancy drink to make him do that! They are soo sneaky

Never get cocky in politics...that's like deliberately invoking the ghost of Murphy.

That would require far more competence on the part of the GOP that I think they're capable of.

Oh well,

at least Corker is better then people like Saxby Chambliss, Jeff Sessions, John Coryrn and David Vitter

Agreed. Call it my centrist bias, but in general, the safer the seat the worse the politician in it.