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Junior Chimp
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« on: August 30, 2005, 12:31:51 AM »

I agree BTW that we should be fairer to y'all in trade and military matters (you have better submarines after all). The issue with trade is the agribusiness constituency...that's who you Aussies have run into on that matter. Internal domestic politics and all that. Not sure why we haven't given you more military tech...

...and the Kiwis suck for abrogating their alliance with the U.S. Wink
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Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,557


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E: -3.48, S: -1.22

« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2005, 06:32:04 PM »

Better subs? Dunno about that. The Virginia-class is no joke, and the 3 Seawolfs we have sure as hell are no joke.

This is based on information from StrategyPage.com over the past year or two - apparently the U.S. and Australia conducted some naval exercises, and their sneaky subs basically wiped out the U.S. forces. Opened some eyes at the Navy, yes it did...
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Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,557


Political Matrix
E: -3.48, S: -1.22

« Reply #2 on: September 01, 2005, 11:22:02 PM »

I agree BTW that we should be fairer to y'all in trade and military matters (you have better submarines after all). The issue with trade is the agribusiness constituency...that's who you Aussies have run into on that matter. Internal domestic politics and all that. Not sure why we haven't given you more military tech...

...and the Kiwis suck for abrogating their alliance with the U.S. Wink

I hadn't read that particular item about the submarine exercise, but I do tend to take these exercises with a grain of salt.  The U.S. frequently "loses" on these exercises.  I remember the very similar bit about how either the Saudi or Pakistani Air Force owned the U.S. in an exercise.  It is kind of like your older brother letting you win in a basketball game- a confidence booster. 

The Aussies have been an overlooked and crucial ally in all of our conflicts.  The British populace were protesting our nuclear prescence while the Aussies were fighting in Vietnam.  (British special forces did have a behind the scenes role in Nam as well though)   Australia is a great ally and I hope to get to the other side of the earth and visit one day.

1st paragraph: Wasn't that the Indian Air Force you're referring to? And yes, the exercise was definitely biased. Wink I remember the submarine exercises with the Aussies as not being biased, though, which is why it concerned the Navy so much...
2nd paragraph: fully agree. I'd also like to visit one day (I can't believe my wastrel brother pulled it off Angry).
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