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WMS
Junior Chimp
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« on: September 16, 2010, 12:20:26 PM »


- MA-09 (D) - Conservadem Stephen Lynch faces a challenge from the left in attorney Mac D'Alessandro. Lynch, of course, has a large cash advantage.

- RI-02 (D) - Rep. Jim Langevin faces two primary challengers, the more significant being State Rep. Betsy Dennigan, but he should have little trouble winning another term.

Oh, I'm calling BS. Is being pro-life, in and of itself, enough to be called a 'conservadem'? Nice to see liberal tolerance is still going strong. Roll Eyes

Oh, and both of these fine pro-life Democrats won their primaries. Neener neener neener. Tongue
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WMS
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2010, 11:04:26 AM »

In order, then...

Lynch is presumably a conservadem because he voted against Obamacare.
It's not quite that simple, from this little bit he criticized it from both the left and right. Then again, so did I. Tongue

We're a bit more tolerant of dissenting opinions than the GOP then clearly.
But only a bit. Tongue There is definitely an effort by the NARAListas to drive out the pro-lifers if they can, however (didn't Stupak get a challenge before he dropped out?) - true in NM, as well, complete with murky applications of non-profit law. And then there's the official party platforms...

Lynch got his primary challenge because of his vote on healthcare. Dennigan also didn't really mention Langevin's pro-life stances during the campaign. Neither of these races had anything to do with abortion.
But I bet that was an underlying reason for why they keep getting primary challenges, hmm? Wink Especially with Langevin (I recall the NARAListas screaming at the very thought of Langevin getting the nod to run against Chafee in 2006)...

I didn't say anything about Langevin's ideology? And Lynch is pretty conservative for a guy in a safe Dem district.

- MA-09 (D) - Conservadem Stephen Lynch faces a challenge from the left in attorney Mac D'Alessandro. Lynch, of course, has a large cash advantage.

Right there. Tongue Ah, this does keep coming up with him, but as Al put it...

Though not really for that district. In any case, that he could even be thought as such is an indication of how the meaning of the term 'conservative democrat' has shifted almost out of recognition over the past couple of decades.

I mean, seriously. I see this as another sign of the increasing radicalization of both parties, a process which has been going on for a while, but is increasing...
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WMS
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2010, 10:42:37 AM »

People don't dislike Lynch because of his stance on abortion, it was more his no vote on healthcare, when he didn't need to vote no.
I'll partially agree - there certainly are those who dislike him for that stance, but his vote on healthcare has higher salience this year. And Lynch has faced problems for quite a while past this year...

No, it really wasn't the reason at all this year. You clearly haven't been following these races at all and shouldn't comment on something you don't know anything about.

Some of your responses to the other posters are also bizarre but I'll let them take care of those.
Arrogant little prick, aren't you? If you had paid attention to what I said, I was referring to the overall trend of them getting primary challenges and not just for this year. I'll agree that the immediate salience of the abortion issue for this year is certainly less, but as part of the long-term trend it is certainly a reason those two get primary challenges. Now, instead of having a reasoned discussion you decided to be an ass about it, so what say you improve your attitude a bit, eh?

I think all those emoticons have affected your reading comprehension. Read again carefully.
Ah, I misunderstood the part about Langevin. I admit I'm wrong in mistaking your comments about Lynch (who is still not a conservadem - Gene Taylor he is not) for those on Langevin. Sorry for the confusion on that point.
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