Who Really Won the Election?

[Lincoln Republican]

Well, looking at a raw vote comparison of the two leading presidential candidates, it appears that Hillary Clinton has a full 4% more votes nation-wide than Donald Trump at this time.  So who should be considered president-elect? 

Uh, now let me see

Who is President Elect?  Who will be sworn in as President in January?
Who is Vice President Elect? Who will be sworn in as Vice President in January?
Who controls the U.S. Senate?
Who controls the U.S. House of Representatives?
Who controls appointments to the U.S. Supreme Court that will last for a generation?

I thought so.

Get the picture?  Is it clear now?  Any questions?

We won.

You lost.

Get over it.

[Lincoln Republican]

Under the system we have for electing presidents, Trump won. The popular vote and other factors can be discussed in terms of their relation to mandates and strength of victories, but the only thing that matters for who won is the electoral collage, which Trump won legitimately.

except he didn't win wisconsin, michigan, pennsylvania or florida, and probably others

OK, you made the accusation that Trump did not win WI, MI, PA, FL.

Now prove it.

[Lincoln Republican]

Well, looking at a raw vote comparison of the two leading presidential candidates, it appears that Hillary Clinton has a full 4% more votes nation-wide than Donald Trump at this time.  So who should be considered president-elect? 

According to a reliable source, this forum, Clinton's lead in the PV over Trump is at this time 1.89%.

[Lincoln Republican]

Trump won unless proven otherwise. I know why he won, I don't blame anyone for voting for him. Time to move on and get ready for the NJ governor's race.

Finally, a Democrat who recognizes that Trump won, and who realizes it is time to move on.