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cinyc
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« on: May 09, 2017, 08:06:51 PM »

Wait this isn't the first Trump investigation firing. Preet Bharara was also investigating some stuff and was fired too.

So no US President should be able to fire their predecessor's political appointees?  Or is this a special rule for Trump?  Every U.S. Attorney is always investigating "some stuff" that might impact the current administration.

The fact is Bharara was fired along with dozens of other politically appointed U.S. Attorneys.  Just like Obama did when he first came into office.

You are putting far too much emphasis on one person.  There is always another monkey waiting in the wings to do the job.  If you think valid, ongoing investigations just stop because somebody gets fired, I have a bridge to sell you.
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« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2017, 08:39:21 PM »
« Edited: May 09, 2017, 08:41:22 PM by cinyc »

Bharara was actually retained by the Trump Administration so his firing was a bit peculiar. Additionally the FBI director has to sign off on recommendations to prosecute or not. Trump's firing him and Sarah Huckabee saying its time to drop the Russian investigation makes things look highly suspicious and draws questions if Trump and Senate Republicans will confirm an independent director who will continue the investigation.

There's a lot of ways a FBI director can quietly kill or stymie an investigation. As I've said can we really trust Trump to appoint and Senate Republicans to confirm a director who may sign off on a recommendation that may warrant prosecution of a number of Trump associates?

If you believe that why do you believe so?

Bharara was no more "retained" by the Trump administration than the other 46 Obama prosecutors fired on the same day.  No political appointee is safe in his or her job - nor should they be.  They serve at the pleasure of the President, not the other way around.

Contrary to your (and Comey's) belief, FBI directors don't make the ultimate decision on whether to prosecute.  That's ultimately up to Justice Department prosecutors, not the FBI.  Comey's belief that he should be acting as a prosecutor is one of the reasons he has been fired.  The job got to his head, and he was making bad decisions.  His misstatements to Congress last week were the last straw.

Can we really trust any President to appoint FBI director who may sign off on a recommendation that may warrant prosecution of a number of his associates?  Why is Trump any different than Obama or Clinton or Bush?   So why bother appointing FBI directors?  Screaming Russia, Russia, Russia, as you, the liberal media and the Democrats are doing, without a scintilla of evidence that Trump did anything criminal isn't going to change this calculus.  The Russia investigation is part of the FBI's domestic surveillance role, not criminal.
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« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2017, 08:52:11 PM »

Bharara was no more "retained" by the Trump administration than the other 46 Obama prosecutors fired on the same day.

Bharara was explicitly asked to stay on by Trump himself.

Says the guy who got fired.

And if he answered the phone call Trump made to him in the day or two before the announcement, he might still be US Attorney for the Southern District of New York.  But he didn't.  Next time, don't duck the phone call from your boss if you're a political appointee. 

US Attorneys serve at the will of the President (or, I think, technically, the Attorney General), and can be fired for any reason or none at all.  46 other political appointees were fired the same day.
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« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2017, 09:05:53 PM »

US Attorneys serve at the will of the President (or, I think, technically, the Attorney General), and can be fired for any reason or none at all.  46 other political appointees were fired the same day.

How many of the 46 other political appointees were personally asked by Trump to stay on in the new administration, cinyc?


How many of the 46 were grandstanding, camera-mugging glory hogs, like Bharara?
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« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2017, 09:27:12 PM »

US Attorneys serve at the will of the President (or, I think, technically, the Attorney General), and can be fired for any reason or none at all.  46 other political appointees were fired the same day.

How many of the 46 other political appointees were personally asked by Trump to stay on in the new administration, cinyc?


How many of the 46 were grandstanding, camera-mugging glory hogs, like Bharara?

Don't let those goalposts hurt your back too much. Smiley

What goalposts?  Obviously, all 46 either were asked or did stay on temporarily after January 20.  That the rest of them didn't run to the press with claims that they were asked to stay on doesn't mean they weren't asked.

Again, I think that if Bharara decided to take the call the President reportedly made before he the decision to ask the 46 to resign, he might still have his job today.
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« Reply #5 on: May 09, 2017, 09:57:16 PM »

US Attorneys serve at the will of the President (or, I think, technically, the Attorney General), and can be fired for any reason or none at all.  46 other political appointees were fired the same day.

How many of the 46 other political appointees were personally asked by Trump to stay on in the new administration, cinyc?


How many of the 46 were grandstanding, camera-mugging glory hogs, like Bharara?

You're allowing your own personal feelings cloud your judgement but ok wek

He didn't answer me either guess that says it all.

Says what?  All I saw was a long screed with few questions.

The Russian investigation is a partisan witch hunt.  It's not even a criminal investigation, yet Democrats, the liberal media, and you are grandstanding about it as if it were.  I suppose if the Senate wants to waste its time investigating, it should.  That's up to Congress.  I wouldn't waste Congress' time.

But the thought that the FBI's intelligence investigation is suddenly going to stop because the top monkey is gone is disrespectful to everyone else at the FBI.  James Comey isn't the whole FBI.  If this is a valid investigation, it's not going to stop because he's gone.
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