The White City

[cinyc]

So NYC isn't a progressive city?

Not really.  Among white voters living in Manhattan below 96th street and a few trendy outer borough neighborhoods, yes.  But once you get to the outer boroughs, the long-term resident white voters are pretty conservative.  Portland and Austin didn't elect someone like Giuliani.

[cinyc]

So NYC isn't a progressive city?

Not really.  Among white voters living in Manhattan below 96th street and a few trendy outer borough neighborhoods, yes.  But once you get to the outer boroughs, the long-term resident white voters are pretty conservative.  Portland and Austin didn't elect someone like Giuliani.

So the point is that outer borough whites are superior to Portland whites because they live in the same metro area as a lot of blacks? This discussion is starting to get into the twilight zone.

I said nothing about superiority.  Just that NYC isn't as "progressive" a city as many think once you leave Manhattan.  Outer borough long-term white resident voters are more conservative than many think (though not as conservative as conservatives on the national scale).  Giuliani wouldn't have been elected in Portland or San Francisco.