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cinyc
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« on: March 18, 2010, 10:28:24 AM »

I've never heard of them, either.  And I generally don't trust pollsters who state their results to the hundredth of a percentage.  That's false precision.  The more reputable pollsters usually don't do that.
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« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2010, 05:51:25 PM »
« Edited: March 18, 2010, 06:37:53 PM by cinyc »


I've at least heard of Susquehanna. And they're not trying to give results to the nearest hundredth.  I wouldn't wager anything on their polling, though.

Undecideds are high in both polls.
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« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2010, 07:03:08 PM »


4% of 18-29s seems low, but are there really many "youngs" left in Johnstown and its Gerrymandered environs?  PA has the second highest percentage of seniors in the country and South Central/West PA is probably older than the rest of the state.

The "youngs" didn't show up in Obama-like proportions for the 2009 New Jersey and Virginia elections and (though there was no exit poll) probably the Massachusetts special election, given the turnout in college and younger towns.
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« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2010, 02:38:52 PM »
« Edited: March 19, 2010, 03:04:17 PM by cinyc »

While I'm sure this district probably ranks toward the bottom of the country for 18-29 population, there have been a number of Senate polls this year with extremely low participation rates for this age group out of line with reality. 4% is not realistic and says more about polling than demographics. That said, I doubt it makes much of a difference.

The Census claims 12.7% for 20-29 with an additional implied 3.5% for 18-19, for a total of 16.2%. Voting participation in a special election will be lower, even disproportionately lower than it is in a general election, but not that much.  

The 2009 New Jersey and Virginia exit polls showed 18-29s comprised 9% and 10% of the electorate, respectively.   Based on my imputation of the 2008 census estimates, about 18.5% of New Jersey voting-age residents and 21% of Virginia voting-age residents were 18-29s.  That means about half of all 18-29s showed up to vote in the big 2009 elections, relative to their percentage of the voting-age population.

If your numbers are correct and about 50% of PA-12 18-29s show up to vote, they should be about 8% of the electorate.  

But 18-29s might not turn out in the same proportions in an irregularly scheduled special election as they would for a regularly scheduled general election.  FWIW, this website claims only 15% of Massachusetts 18-29s showed up to vote in the Massachusetts Special Election based on some bizarre imputation of Rasmussen's last poll (remember - there was no exit poll).   According to that website, 18-29 MA turnout was lower than NJ (19%) or VA (17%).  

So the 18-29s in PA-12 could very well end up being lower than 8% of the total turnout in the special election.   Probably not 4%, but 4% is not so far off as to skew the results much.
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