Some conservative's hope for Bush's Loss. (NOT BUSH BASHING I PROMISE)

[classical liberal]

I only heard implicit references to the Bush administration.  Like Kerry implying that Bush doesn't believe that "America can do better".  The only times I saw references to Bush was the anti-Bush button sale in one corner of the floor, the three delegates with ABB stickers and Kerry's message to Bush.  Some low level people may have done stuff, but they're mostly under the radar screen.

[classical liberal]

Which Republican Group will have the best/worst showing for George Bush. Who will punish him and who will reward him for his policies.

1.  anti-government conservatives
2.  social conservatives
3.  neoconservatives idealists
4.  Buchananite Paleoconservatives
5.  libertarians
6.  pragmatic Nelson Rockefeller-style Internationalists

and for what reason

1.  Bush increased Government size and spending
2.  Bush tainted the America's  international Reputation
3.  To create Gridlock between Congress and President
4.  To allow the Republican Party to regenerate and come back stronger than ever
5. To set up Bill Owens and/or other Republican for a stronger (Reagan-esqe) Presidency from 2008  through 2020

I am a combination of GOP type 1, 6, & 4 in that order.  I hope Bush loses for reasons 1, 2, & 3 in that order.

[classical liberal]

As an Ayn Rand Crazy type I used to support that breed of Republicans that believed that Government should take as little in taxes as possible and then spend it wisely when they did.

I would like and current Bush supporter to explain to me why the $500,000,000 seniors drug bill is anything other than a $ half Trillion  give away to the drug companies.

If the Dems threw away that kind of cash bribing say the Unions (a Standard Dem practice via so called "prevailing" wage rules) the GOP correctly would pop a valve.

The GOP is now similar to the Dems - they just use taxpayers money to bribe different people.

The drug bill will cost us 540b not 500b.

It's not the GOP that has become a bunch of liberals, it's that the GOP Leadership has become a bunch of liberals.

[classical liberal]

Libertarians are socially liberal and fiscally conservative.  

"That government which governs best, governs least [socially and fiscally]."

[classical liberal]

Entitlements and social programs are on the fiscal side.  the socil side is stances on non-fiscal issues (USA PATRIOT Act, Abortion, etc).  Favor of a welfare state is a fiscally liberal attribute.