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« on: May 18, 2021, 10:44:18 PM »

wow, didn't even notice this.

This is why normally I update first then bring new ones to the floor. I deviated here because of the importance of this, and it led to problems. oops.
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« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2021, 10:54:07 PM »

We are going to need a "Amendment Explanation" section as required by this: https://talkelections.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=290384.msg6169832#msg6169832

Would this be exhaustive enough?
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The Fifth Constitution replaces the bicameral Congress with an 18 member Unicameral Senate, containing 9 members elected at-large, 3 elected from the Regions and 6 elected from new sub-regions.
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« Reply #2 on: May 19, 2021, 10:25:20 AM »

Quote from: Amendment Offered
Amendment Explanation

The Fifth Constitution replaces the bicameral Congress with an 18 member Unicameral Senate, containing 9 members elected at-large, 3 elected from the Regions and 6 elected from new sub-regions. To facilitate this sub-region system changes have been made to discourage strategic registration.


I conferred with Sestak and he thinks this should suffice.

Do note this won't be part of the text ratified as the new constitution but will be self contained in its own quote box in the larger resolution.
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« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2021, 10:31:10 AM »

Aye
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« Reply #4 on: May 24, 2021, 11:31:57 AM »

While I am sure there was a ton of debate behind the scenes and I trust Sestak's billwriting, it is weird (and somewhat worrying) to see the 5th constitution adopted with almost no debate compared to the whole concon for the 4th Tongue

This is not as substantial as a change or set of changes though. No reset, no changes to executive (minor alteration to VP), judiciary etc. The basic format of the constitution and most of the wording thus from the 2015 Con-con is being retained, with amendments to this point incorporated.

The major changes are legislative structure, the sub regions and the stricter limitations on strategic registration.

With that, a lot more people are hands off now and disengaged and while this would be worrisome in most cases, the realization that the changes are limited in scope is somewhat counter balancing and reassuring against that worry if that makes sense.

This is kind of like 2010, though there was a lot of attention placed on the strength of the text, mainly because of the number of problems in that area in the Second constitution.
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