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« on: November 20, 2019, 12:56:41 AM »

I believe this counts as a resolution so it would be SR21:15
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« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2019, 01:43:23 AM »

Encke was very active but at the end had stuff come up, which he communicated. Another previous deputy (tmth) was run out of the game because of actions done by your party members, which funny enough, none of you have bothered to address and call out said members for. One of the current deputies (Sestak) has been insanely inactive since being confirmed and while Labor members had no issues attacking Mr. R and Encke, not a single one of them publicly attacked Sestak for doing nothing, yourself included.

Frankly there was some kind of massive break down in communication at the GM department and indeed Mr. R would be responsible for that but I would be curious to now why there was no proactive effort by Sestak, particularly at a time when both he and Encke were active in the game at large.

The passive acceptance of inactivity can easily become a justification for one's own activity. We know what happened to Tmth, we know why Encke's activity dropped off. I would like to hear Sestak's side of things for the sake of balance, particularly prior to the start of the school year. 
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« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2019, 01:26:08 AM »

So Adam never even asked Mr. R if he would step aside for a replacement?


What a ridiculous waste of time and energy.
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« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2019, 01:30:40 AM »

My only remaining interest in this process is if Sestak can find the time to post about his GM interactions, basically getting some redeeming value from this nonsense, a make shift committee investigation.


Other than that I see no purpose in continuing based on Mr. R's response.
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« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2019, 02:16:38 AM »

I don't think the lack of communication begins or ends with Mr. R or even the GM department. There have been many times when I have come on and only after hours of bs Mibbit/Discord discussion did someone make me aware of something profoundly impactful that I really should have been made aware of hours earlier.


With the rise of Mibbit and Discord there is a presumption on the part of people they everything postd in there is known by all. The truth is you are really only speaking to 3 or 5 people and even if there are 20 people actively posting in there, some may have stepped out to eat or someone is changing his TV station or looking at a different tab.

And we know our people love to get tagged on discord.

We need to get back in the habit of PMing information. Unfortunately, with the PM limit of five, Discord is far more effective for the Senate but even there (remember the recommendation to introduced house bills into the Senate queue), stuff just goes unseen some times. 
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« Reply #5 on: November 27, 2019, 01:26:49 PM »

I never said this came out of the blue. My point is that this could have been dealt with both sooner and simpler.

I think the key point here is that there has been a shift in priorities. For years, based on difficulties in getting people as GM, the going procedure was to tacitly or begrudingly accept a less than stellar Game Moderator as opposed to having no GM at all, "until a better candidate could be found" (which is the approach Mr. R was taking).  I understand why that mindset has shifted to one of "its basically vacant already". However, the point I was trying to make is that it doesn't at any point seem like people directly communicated with Mr. Reactionary and while I respect "potential concerns" about interference or fear of disrupting process. There wouldn't have been a problem with say communicating on the basis of either to obtain a plan for greater activity or requesting that resignation be considered.

Look I know how the echo chamber works, I have seen it and overcome it regularly to make sure that things get done. It is not hard to fall pray to the presumption that someone will not cooperate and then just skip that step. I will make note, that there were certain people who posted erroneously that I would never make a deal with Blair to split a term as President. If you contact someone in a professional manner and stick to the issues at hand, you can typically get things done even if said person and you don't have the best of relations.

As many of you know Oakvale and I do not have a good history in this game, but I still managed to get him to resign as Representative for the good of the chamber.
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« Reply #6 on: December 01, 2019, 12:21:27 AM »


You should note that is not what I said, Truman, and it makes no sense in the context of the specter of conflict of interest in making such communication (literally raised in the same sentence) or the comparison to Oakvale, who is a person with whom I had significant issues with as you well know. I sent a PM asking if he could reasonably foresee an increase in activity in the immediate future and if not, he should consider resigning. He responded back that such would probably be for the best and he resigned. I also took the same approach with many others over the years.

This was the matter that it didn't seem "anyone communicated with Mr. R" about, and frankly it doesn't make any sense to broaden the scope of my comment since I was one of the ones trying to get feedback for GI Joe and other bills for several months, so again any broadening or misapplication of my comment just doesn't make any form of logical sense and wouldn't hold up, even if you weren't familiar with my own difficulties in getting responses from the GM, as the post itself should have been enough even with it being rushed just as I departed for work during one of our busiest periods of the year, so not much time for refinement in that case.
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