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« on: August 02, 2019, 12:01:35 PM »
« edited: November 30, 2019, 11:34:43 PM by Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee »

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DUMB REPEALING REPEAL ACT
To reinstate regulations previous Congresses have decided to waste its time meddling in
Be it enacted in both Houses of Congress

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SECTION I. TITLE
This law shall be referred to as the Dumb Repealing Repeal Act.

SECTION II. DUMB REGULATIONS REPEAL ACT
The following sections in the Dumb Regulations Repeal Act (F.L. 12-18) are repealed and their regulations reinstated:
Section II: Sub-sections 3-8, 11, 14-17, and 19-20,
Section III: Sub-sections 1, 7-9, and 11-19,
Section IV: Sub-sections 1-2, 5-8, 10, 12, and 14-20,
Section V: Sub-sections 3-7, 9, 11-16, and 18,
Section VI: Sub-sections 1-4, 6, 10, 12-14, 16, and 18,
Section VII: Sub-sections 1-3, 5-7, 9-10, 15-17, and 19-20, and
Section VIII: Sub-sections 1, 5-6, 8, 10-11, 13-14, 18, and 20.
The following sections in the Dumb Regulations Repeal Act 9: Nein! Nein! Nein! (F.L. 13-20) are repealed and their regulations reinstated:
Section II: Sub-sections 2, 4-5, 7-11, 13-14, 16-17, and 19-26.
The Dumb Regulations Repeal Act 12: Boom Boom Pow! (F.L. 13-33) is repealed.
The following sections in the Dumb Regulation Repeal Act XI: Food Glorious Food (F.L. 13-36) are repealed and their regulations reinstated:
Section II: Sub-sections 1, 3-4, 7-9, 12, 17-22, 25-26, 28-29, and 31-34.
The following sections in the Dumb Regulation Repeal Act X: This Land is Our Land (F.L. 13-40) are repealed and their regulations reinstated:
Section II: Sub-sections 15, 17, 18, 19b-21, 23, 34-39, 43, 45-47, and 50.
The following sections in the Dumb Regulations Repeal Act 15: Quinoa may be Food  (F.L. 16-06) are repealed and their regulations reinstated:
Section II.a: Sub-sections i.-vii.
The following sections in the Dumb Regulations Repeal Act 16-17 (F.L. 18-03) are repealed and their regulations reinstated:
Sections 1-2, 4-5, 7, 9, 13, 15-21, 26-29, 31-32, 41, 43-45, 47-68, 70-74, and 76-96.

Section III. IMPLEMENTATION
This legislation shall take effect immediately upon its passage into law.

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Sponsor: OntarioProgressive
Senate Designation: SB 19:32
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« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2019, 12:02:26 PM »
« Edited: August 02, 2019, 10:04:44 PM by Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee »

The sponsor has 24 hours to Advocate and the Senators have 48 hours to respond.


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« Reply #2 on: August 02, 2019, 10:04:58 PM »

meant to say advocate above, not object.
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« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2019, 12:55:24 AM »

ah, Ontario?
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« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2019, 07:35:52 PM »

I am not going to try and pick these apart one by one, but for instance on the close line regulation where Sestak says you have to draw line somewhere, isn't it in our interest to air on the side of not criminalizing something versus criminalizing it. While you say the argument can be used to repeal almost every regulation/law the reverse it also true, whereby every law/regulation becomes justified in turn. Therefore if such a regulation is necessary, perhaps minimizing that cutoff to the furthest extent possible while still achieving the objective is the best course.

Also I find the response to the point about mass scale of this reinstatement to have loud echos of "how can you attack Xahar, while defending Napoleon", though probably unintentionally since the sponsor was not present in the game when that meme came about (in fact the word meme was not even common place back then IIRC).

Some of these may indeed have a purpose, including for instance I am open to the arguments about the silver/HSA thing, but when it comes to the raisins or the onion rings, no one is going to be harmed if the federal government scales back its presence on those matters.

From working in a retail where I spend 95% of my time handling grocery products I can say that people are very picky by nature in terms of what they buy and either you get the "give me Great Value, its just as good as the name brand" or you get the "that cheap stuff is crap give me the name brand".

I think people have and will continue to make such determinations based on a wide variety of logical and illogical determinations and they will continue to do so no matter what the federal gov't says a particular food must contain in order to remain classified as one food instead of another.

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« Reply #5 on: August 29, 2019, 12:24:13 AM »

I realize this is a complex topic and such but could we resume discussion of the other portions of this bill like in the immediate future?

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« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2019, 01:54:56 AM »

This bill annoys me. For so short a text, it contains a lot of changes and a lot of moving parts that seems to be a tall order to actually debate them.

I have also PMed the major players a while ago now, and yet nothing has occurred since then.
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« Reply #7 on: September 12, 2019, 01:40:55 AM »

This bill annoys me. For so short a text, it contains a lot of changes and a lot of moving parts that seems to be a tall order to actually debate them.

I have also PMed the major players a while ago now, and yet nothing has occurred since then.


This is a problem with many of these regulations repeal bills as well, though to arguably the credit of the sponsor, he’s always voted against these for largely that reason.

Yeah I think the sponsor got a start on this (because I recall him and a few others going through this on a Sunday while I was flying home from a vacation in Montana) and combined with all the other bills (we got through 32 last Congress after all), it seems to have fallen through the wayside. Spending so much time not on the 1st page hasn’t helped.

I would point out it is in slot 3 of the noticeboard though, which is rather near the top.  Operating from the board threads is so inefficient, particularly when you can just click to where you need to go so easily from the noticeboard.
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« Reply #8 on: September 15, 2019, 10:39:28 PM »

This bill annoys me. For so short a text, it contains a lot of changes and a lot of moving parts that seems to be a tall order to actually debate them.

I have also PMed the major players a while ago now, and yet nothing has occurred since then.


This is a problem with many of these regulations repeal bills as well, though to arguably the credit of the sponsor, he’s always voted against these for largely that reason.

Yeah I think the sponsor got a start on this (because I recall him and a few others going through this on a Sunday while I was flying home from a vacation in Montana) and combined with all the other bills (we got through 32 last Congress after all), it seems to have fallen through the wayside. Spending so much time not on the 1st page hasn’t helped.

I would point out it is in slot 3 of the noticeboard though, which is rather near the top.  Operating from the board threads is so inefficient, particularly when you can just click to where you need to go so easily from the noticeboard.

That requires people to be unlazy and click on the noticeboard Tongue You don’t know how many times back in the last term of the House where a bill would fall through the wayside even if being voted on due to it falling to the 2nd page.

Do you guys have a discord channel for the House?
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« Reply #9 on: October 21, 2019, 02:56:24 AM »

Ontario would you be on board with an amendment that reflects the above chat log?
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« Reply #10 on: October 22, 2019, 10:41:10 PM »

Okay so now we have to craft an amendment text.
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« Reply #11 on: October 29, 2019, 05:15:26 PM »

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« Reply #12 on: November 20, 2019, 01:05:09 AM »

Dangerously close to that week deadline, YE.
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« Reply #13 on: November 21, 2019, 02:25:15 AM »


You're Runnin Out of Time...
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« Reply #14 on: November 30, 2019, 11:33:43 PM »


Seconded
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« Reply #15 on: November 30, 2019, 11:34:15 PM »

A vote is now open on the motion to table the Dumb Repealing Act, Senators please vote Aye, Nay or Abstain. This is a 48 hour vote (as opposed to the usual 72 hours).
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« Reply #16 on: November 30, 2019, 11:34:32 PM »

AYE
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« Reply #17 on: December 06, 2019, 01:18:32 PM »

I just found a resolution to the whole mess and now we’re tabling?

I don't think people are paying much attention to this thread anyway. I have gotten into the bad habit of skipping it myself simply because it lagged so long.

Restarting it would probably be the best approach to get progress anyway.

There is an empty Senate slot and with the Breakout act on the floor there are no waiting bills, so this could be back on the floor immediately.
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« Reply #18 on: December 06, 2019, 01:20:02 PM »

Vote on Motion to Table:

Aye (3): MB, NC Yankee, and Peanut
Nay (1): Ontario Progressive
Abstain (0):

Didn't Vote (2): Devout Centrist and Pyro


The bill has been tabled.
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