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« on: March 05, 2019, 02:49:22 AM »
« edited: March 30, 2019, 04:02:30 PM by Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee »

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A HOUSE BILL

To apply consistency in Atlasian immigration policy

Be it Enacted in Both Houses of Congress Assembled,

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Section 1
This Act shall be cited as the Consistency in Immigration Status Act.

Section 2
No undocumented immigrant who has continuously resided in Atlasia prior to April 19, 2007 shall be considered for deportation solely due to their undocumented status.

People's House of Representatives
Passed in the House of Representatives 6-3-0-0


People's Regional Senate
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Sponsor: Maineiac4434
Senate Designation: SB 9101
Original Thread: https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=311108.0
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« Reply #1 on: March 05, 2019, 03:35:51 PM »

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« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2019, 07:03:31 PM »

Alright, an analysis can be found here:
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=308863.msg6700442#msg6700442

If more information is needed about a specific part of the bill, give me the word and I'll add that on.

I'll also add that the countries qualifying for aid (as described in Section 5.1 of COOTS) are the same as what they were in 2017 (Mexico, El Salvador, Guatemala), as they were the only countries contributing 5% or greater to the undocumented population at the time of the bill's passage. I would expect some increase in immigration from countries in East Asia due to the recent war, but that wouldn't affect anything in a potential analysis of that section because the qualifying countries will only be reevaluted by the SoS after 2021.

What is the main factor delaying implementation of entry-exit system?
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« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2019, 05:21:42 PM »

Alright, an analysis can be found here:
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=308863.msg6700442#msg6700442

If more information is needed about a specific part of the bill, give me the word and I'll add that on.

I'll also add that the countries qualifying for aid (as described in Section 5.1 of COOTS) are the same as what they were in 2017 (Mexico, El Salvador, Guatemala), as they were the only countries contributing 5% or greater to the undocumented population at the time of the bill's passage. I would expect some increase in immigration from countries in East Asia due to the recent war, but that wouldn't affect anything in a potential analysis of that section because the qualifying countries will only be reevaluted by the SoS after 2021.

What is the main factor delaying implementation of entry-exit system?

  • technical and operational challenges in the development of more sophisticated verification software (notably, a lower-than-expected confirmation rate during testing)
  • potential lack of dedicated staff to oversee operation of the new system in some locations
  • general inertia
  • concerns about dedicated long-term funding for updating potentially outdated systems (plus a healthy amount of concern trolling)

What do you mean by the fourth one on the list?
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« Reply #4 on: March 26, 2019, 02:59:42 PM »

I move for a final vote, Senators have 24 hours to object.

I was considering offering an amendment, but I have decided to avoid pursuing that on this vehicle.
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« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2019, 12:32:53 AM »

Senators, a final vote is now open on this legislation, please vote Aye, Nay or Abstain.
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« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2019, 12:35:39 AM »

I am unsure what to vote here. On one hand I am generally opposed to amnesty and think we should deport illegal inmigrants. On the other hand, in this bill we are talking about people who have spent the last 12 years at the very least in Atlasia, a really long period of time where they've already had their lives sorted out.

So I'm very conflicted on this.

I generally think that illegal inmigrants should be deported as soon as possible; otherwise you run into problems like this one.

I used to be one of the biggest immigration hawks on this forum, so much so that Deadflagblues still thinks I am Hitler.

The irony is that both sides have gone to such extremes on the issue IRL, that I am now am a moderate on the issue.

I generally agree with what you say.
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« Reply #7 on: March 29, 2019, 02:40:34 PM »

Nay


After giving it some thought, and viewing tack's expressed concerns, I think that while we should consider normalizing status, especially for the Dreamers and such forth and also yes for people who have been here a while, I think passing this bill without some form of attached measure to discourage future illegal immigration would thus be irresponsible and could likely lead to a migrant surge similar to that of 2014 where the presumption of cyclical amnesty leads to more illegal immigration.

My earlier desire for an amendment was going to be on this basis, but I couldn't find a way to expedite the the process with regards to entry-exit, which was my preferred approach. In light of these considerations I have decided to vote against the bill.

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« Reply #8 on: March 29, 2019, 02:44:03 PM »

This has enough votes to pass, Senators have 24 hours to change their votes.
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« Reply #9 on: March 30, 2019, 04:02:11 PM »

Vote on final Passage of the Consistency in Immigration Status Act

Aye (4): Devout Centrist, Maineiac, OntarioProgressive, and Vern1988
Nay (2): NC Yankee and Tack50
Abstain (0):

Didn't Vote (0):

With four votes in the affirmative and time having expired, this bill has passed the Senate unchanged and is presented to the President for executive action.
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« Reply #10 on: March 30, 2019, 04:03:46 PM »

Quote from: Final Senate Text
SENATE BILL

To apply consistency in Atlasian immigration policy

Be it Enacted in Both Houses of Congress Assembled,

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Section 1
This Act shall be cited as the Consistency in Immigration Status Act.

Section 2
No undocumented immigrant who has continuously resided in Atlasia prior to April 19, 2007 shall be considered for deportation solely due to their undocumented status.

People's House of Representatives
Passed in the House of Representatives 6-3-0-0


People's Regional Senate
Passed 4-2 in the Atlasian Senate Assembled,

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« Reply #11 on: March 30, 2019, 04:04:48 PM »

Quote from: Final Congressional Text
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ACT OF CONGRESS

To apply consistency in Atlasian immigration policy

Enacted in Both Houses of Congress Assembled,

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Section 1
This Act shall be cited as the Consistency in Immigration Status Act.

Section 2
No undocumented immigrant who has continuously resided in Atlasia prior to April 19, 2007 shall be considered for deportation solely due to their undocumented status.

People's House of Representatives
Passed in the House of Representatives 6-3-0-0


People's Regional Senate
Passed 4-2 in the Atlasian Senate Assembled,

Joint Passage of Act of Congress

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