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Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee
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« on: June 26, 2016, 12:04:28 AM »
« edited: June 26, 2016, 12:10:19 AM by Eternal Senator North Carolina Yankee »

This is ridiculous.


Look, Poirot I have a lot of respect for you, but Atlasia is going through a transition right now and one thing this game doesn't need is nitpicky ass lawsuits that don't change anything except to sap up precious time and delay in the implementation of the god damn reforms. Arguably, the whole reason this process had to be rushed was because of the previous such lawsuit delayed the seating of the House, a lawsuit mind you, that didn't change the result in any election for which the ruling applied.
 
Also, the election is still going to be certified by Rpryor anyway, and therefore he will handle any all matters pertaining to the application of laws and such. All Tmth did was open a booth, so that we could elect a President before we litteraly run out of time. Adam leaves office in a matter of days, not weeks, DAYS!!!

What do you think happens when the Presidential term expires and we have no President or Vice President. There are no succession laws in place. Do you really want to nuke this game like that? No Preisdent to appoint anybody, or sign a law pertaining to his succession. Basically a year plus of hard work is for nothing and Al, TNF and their criminal gang wins. Is that what you want?
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Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee
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« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2016, 12:20:59 AM »

This is ridiculous.


Look, Poirot I have a lot of respect for you, but Atlasia is going through a transition right now and one thing this game doesn't need is nitpicky ass lawsuits that don't change anything except to sap up precious time and delay in the implementation of the god damn reforms. Arguably, the whole reason this process had to be rushed was because of the previous such lawsuit delayed the seating of the House, a lawsuit mind you, that didn't change the result in any election for which the ruling applied.
 
Also, the election is still going to be certified by Rpryor anyway, and therefore he will handle any all matters pertaining to the application of laws and such. All Tmth did was open a booth, so that we could elect a President before we litteraly run out of time. Adam leaves office in a matter of days, not weeks, DAYS!!!

What do you think happens when the Presidential term expires and we have no President or Vice President. There are no succession laws in place. Do you really want to nuke this game like that? No Preisdent to appoint anybody, or sign a law pertaining to his succession. Basically a year plus of hard work is for nothing and Al, TNF and their criminal gang wins. Is that what you want?

The most important lawsuits are the ones filed early.  They set a precedent for what is the law to come.  That previous supposedly nitpicky lawsuit about who could vote in the House elections set an important precedent that applies to future elections where the election might be decided by those who just re-registered, or might lead us to a constitutional amendment to fix this loophole.  It was important.

This lawsuit is equally important, and will determine which branch of Congress has confirmatory power.  It is very important that the very first acts of the new government are done to the letter of the law, as they are the most likely to set precedent for the future.

Look, any other case, I would be 100% with you. But this is different, the game is litterally on the line until we get through this transition period.

And as for the previous lawsuit, it was indeed pointless because guess what, it has been reversed by statute. All it did was delay the House, which in turn delayed the election law and the appointment and left us with this situation here. I respect Evergreen and I respect Poirot, but this situation here is one that essential to the very survival of the game, even the loathed god of ATlasian legalism (as descrbied by the radicals), is willing to put the survival of the game first in this instance.
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Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee
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« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2016, 04:15:15 PM »
« Edited: June 26, 2016, 04:28:01 PM by Eternal Senator North Carolina Yankee »

Even if the House had the power to conform someone running elections, I don't think the election administrator had a majority of votes for confirmation when he acted in that authority in opening the booth.

But he did get a majority and he would have gotten a majority in the Senate. What do you expect to happen, poirot, what is your end goal?

It is easy to find a technicality to bring a process to a screeching halt, but the problem is Presidential term is over. What wrong has been committed by Tmth, except allowing democracy to occur, and what remedy could be given besides leaving Atlasia leaderless in a time of crisis and transition?

The reason we have laws is so that the people may be able to vote and decide their destiny, therefore the law must not be contrived to stand in the way of the will of people and interests of preserving said democratic system.
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