SENATE BILL: The Public means Public Act (Redraft Law'd)

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Griffin you stil lwant your amendment or not?

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Griffin?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

GRIFFIN?!!!

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Its been six days, so I am interrupting that as a no.

What now?

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

interesting proposal.  does this mean someone must be allowed to camp out on Abe Lincoln's lap?

Wouldn't the underlying legislation have the same effect anyway?

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I must point out that in Lincoln's day it wasn't uncommon to find visitor to the White House sleeping in the hallways in various parts of the mansion.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

No amendment has been offered as of yet. But knowing will help if he offers it as is.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

interesting proposal.  does this mean someone must be allowed to camp out on Abe Lincoln's lap?

Wouldn't the underlying legislation have the same effect anyway?

Yes, but I hadn't thought of that example otherwise.

I must point out that in Lincoln's day it wasn't uncommon to find visitor to the White House sleeping in the hallways in various parts of the mansion.

I can't say I'm against that.  However, my Senate office must remain sacrosanct.

My office was already filled with homeless people. I give them food and they give me blowjobs and cocaine - it's a little gentlemen's agreement of ours.

Must be cramped in that tool shed.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Still two hours to go before I can start the vote on that amendment.

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[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

AYE

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But I think this touches on one of the major game reform issues facing us today. It's virtually impossible to tell what counts as a federal or as a regional issue.

Our side would probably say that is because the Feds have take over so much of what the Regions should be doing.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

But I think this touches on one of the major game reform issues facing us today. It's virtually impossible to tell what counts as a federal or as a regional issue.

Our side would probably say that is because the Feds have take over so much of what the Regions should be doing.

Well your side might say that, but that answer exactly what the regions should be doing.

At this point, the best approach would be divide up areas of responsbility and then have a limited federal reboot in those areas. I am fully willing to have a discussion on which ones that should be in particular. Certainly regulations of the public space should be considered as close to locally as possible here so thingsl ike this or the smoking bans  would count.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

But I think this touches on one of the major game reform issues facing us today. It's virtually impossible to tell what counts as a federal or as a regional issue.

Our side would probably say that is because the Feds have take over so much of what the Regions should be doing.

The Regions should be doing nothing because the Regions should not exist.

Ah, no.   

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Nay - public is public, and that applies to regions as well.

Yes and a community that is built on tourism should be able to make decisions for themselves on that regard and differently from one that isn't. I highlight doubt a simple majority in Nyman can best tell them how their public space is to be regulated when we don't have to consider their economic needs for one as well as others.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Nay - public is public, and that applies to regions as well.

Yes and a community that is built on tourism should be able to make decisions for themselves on that regard and differently from one that isn't. I highlight doubt a simple majority in Nyman can best tell them how their public space is to be regulated when we don't have to consider their economic needs for one as well as others.

Call me crazy, but I think you shouldn't be banned from a certain place because your needs are less important than other people's wants.

Indeed.

Even if what you define as a want is a multi-billion dollar industry that employs thousands of people? Sounds like a great way to create more homeless people if you ask me. Why are we forcing communities to have to eat a loss of money and jobs potentially, when two of our regions are now providing for this problem in a far more effective manner and another section of this bill further facilitates that effort.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

And Tyrion, refresh my memory, did you or did you not vote in favor of instituting a federal ban on communities enacting smoking bans when TNF pushed for that a few months ago? If so, where was the concern about putting people's wants ahead of other people's needs then?

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

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Why should my region have to sacrifice its tourism industry when we are taking care of the homeless by actually giving them an apartment which is better than a national park and/or beach?

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

That is not what this bill does. It requires us in the IDS to turn our parks into Hoovervilles eventhough we are already providing apartments.

It doesn't matter whether there is a semicolon or not, Alfred.

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I believe there is to be another amendment offered soon.

Unless clauses 1 and 2 are altered, there is no way I can vote for this.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

That is not what this bill does. It requires us in the IDS to turn our parks into Hoovervilles eventhough we are already providing apartments.

It doesn't matter whether there is a semicolon or not, Alfred.

Yes, I realized that as soon as I actually saw the emoticon I had posted (i.e. just now). And if you're providing apartments for the homeless then you shouldn't have to worry about this. It's only the regions that haven't eradicated homelessness that should worry.

Seeing as we'll never convince each other, I suppose it's time to vote.

You miss the point. If you require that they be used in this fashion, they will end up being so. There is no reason to require us to allow the homeless to sleep in parks in the IDS, when we provide for our homeless in a responsible manner. If Clauses 1 and 2 were changed to reflect the fact that some regions' have addressed this and made to apply only to the parks in regions that hadn't, then you would be right otherwise it will hurt our tourism and thus our economy unfairly.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

What about people who are mentally ill? What about tohse with drug abuse problems?


That is the problem with this bill. It is a blanket standard and it just throws open the gates as an alternative option and if some people do have issues or are just being difficult, we will be prohibited by force of fiat from Nyman from directing them to attain such an apartment as opposed to taking up residents in the parks. That will discourage people from visiting the parks and thus hurt both tourism and travel in the region, and all for nothing, because provide apartments.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I have to go soon. If the amendment I expect to be offered isn't by this afternoon or early evening, I will offer it myself when I get back on.