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« Reply #25 on: May 08, 2014, 04:52:37 PM »

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Certainly, at the very least, conditions could be attached to the monies given and carry some weight with those conditions.
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« Reply #26 on: May 09, 2014, 07:58:06 PM »

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Certainly, at the very least, conditions could be attached to the monies given and carry some weight with those conditions.

I tried that approach already with an amendment, and it failed.  As it is now, the money in Section 1 is conditional on whether federal bureaucrats feel like taking the option of handing it out, but the onus on the school districts to comply with this law is not optional.  How is that right?

I guess we can go threaten to take all their federal funding away if they can't come up with the money to meet these mandates, but isn't that just a little perverse?


Not all their funding, but perhaps just all their education funding.
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« Reply #27 on: May 16, 2014, 06:41:42 PM »

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« Reply #28 on: May 16, 2014, 06:42:14 PM »

I might have missed some chnages to section 1 but I think those amendments all failed.
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« Reply #29 on: May 17, 2014, 11:12:22 AM »

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« Reply #30 on: May 18, 2014, 05:14:40 PM »

I am worried that the total price tag of this might push rather high with 5 and 5. How much are all the grants going to cost?
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« Reply #31 on: May 19, 2014, 03:31:49 PM »

GM's don't give such cost analysis anymore, we're on our own. Tongue
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« Reply #32 on: May 21, 2014, 06:22:39 PM »

$73,600,000,000

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« Reply #33 on: May 21, 2014, 06:29:19 PM »

Spread it over 5/10 years and partner at least 50% with the Regions on the cost.

5 years
$14,720,000,000 a year.

$ 7,360,000,000 per year from our end.

10 years
$ 7,360,000,000

$3,680,000,000 from our end.
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« Reply #34 on: May 21, 2014, 06:29:41 PM »

What about the other portions?
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« Reply #35 on: May 22, 2014, 07:31:05 PM »

I have no idea, but I would presume you'd be correct. We really have no way of knowing under our current system of playing this game.

Why?

If we could find out the cost variance and the number that already have it, we would go a long way to reducing that cost nunber to a manageable number.
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« Reply #36 on: May 23, 2014, 07:33:35 PM »

Do we really want to just appropriate $45 billion for this?  Surely we can come up with a program/text to match regional contributions to this purpose?   

I can with ease once we now how much we are talking about $45 billion still doesn't accoutn for the cost variance. Some areas will be cheaper others will be more expensive. Once we figure that out, coming up with some kind of matching scheme shouldn't be too hard. Unless it involves a complex formula, then shua is probably better at that than me. Wink

What sort of lifetime does a wifi network have?



^ Also we need to know this as well?
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« Reply #37 on: May 24, 2014, 08:24:16 AM »

If anything we should move to cut the rate back as soon as possible.
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« Reply #38 on: May 25, 2014, 07:37:09 PM »

We did have a 90% top rate in the 1950s, after all.

So you planning to bomb both Asia and Europe into submission so that everyone has to both borrow and buy from us, just like in the 1950's as well? Tongue

So that 20 years later once they have recovered, we can get creamed by industrial economies that are using more efficient machinary 30 years newer then ours. Why don't you throw in an energy shortage to boot and relive the 1970's in total. Tongue


Economics, Its all about the context.
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« Reply #39 on: May 28, 2014, 08:38:47 PM »

I was watching Midway for Memorial Day but I didn't get to finish it unti learly this morning. Since I recorded it off of the History Channel's Movies in Time way back in 2004 (or was it 2003) it had a lot of old commercials in it.

One of them was for Dell Wireless Solutions and featured an office managed telling his suborninates, "Why aren't we getting a wireless network? Can't Afford it! So how does 300,000 yards of premium grade network cable sound? It's gonna revolutionize the way we do business." Then it shows people tripping all over the lines, a bicycle gets caught in one and a poor guy's laptop goes flying down the road and finally a guy gets into a taxi with a cable trailing behind it.

For some reason, I thought of this bill. Tongue
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« Reply #40 on: May 29, 2014, 07:17:55 PM »

Okay so $11 billion for wi-fi. What about the rest of the bill?
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« Reply #41 on: May 30, 2014, 08:46:39 PM »

Yeah, that's a full section replacement.

You have to specify that because the rules stipulate that none referenced portions will be maintained. A necessary rule considering we once amended out a bill title before it was introduced.

Also if the region's will be responsibel for the maintenance, shouldn't it state that somewhat?


Also, LUMINE!!!!!!!! Feedback please?
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« Reply #42 on: May 30, 2014, 09:06:39 PM »

CINCY?!!!!!!


What about my question, bore? Lets resolve it before Cincy proceeds?
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« Reply #43 on: May 31, 2014, 10:01:08 AM »

CINCY?!!!!!!


What about my question, bore? Lets resolve it before Cincy proceeds?

What's your question? If it's the one about the rest of the bill I don't see how it's relevant to my amendment.

Yeah, that's a full section replacement.
Also if the region's will be responsibel for the maintenance, shouldn't it state that somewhat?  
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« Reply #44 on: May 31, 2014, 10:24:26 AM »

Weren't we discussing this matter in the Public Spaces bill thing?
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« Reply #45 on: May 31, 2014, 10:34:38 AM »


The hardest part would be deciding who gets what policy area.

A con-con might help if you got enough to agree to even discuss the matter, and then you have to work out which level gets what.
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« Reply #46 on: June 02, 2014, 07:24:35 PM »

What is the total cost picture we are looking at here now?
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« Reply #47 on: June 04, 2014, 07:39:43 PM »

I thought we wanted this to get done soon?

What is the total cost of this at present?
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« Reply #48 on: June 08, 2014, 07:23:03 PM »

I would recommend the compiling of the current text then.
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« Reply #49 on: June 10, 2014, 08:05:34 PM »

How many schools lack "computer technology"?
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