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« Reply #50 on: May 19, 2014, 02:54:37 PM »

Can we extend the time limits for this?

Why do you ask, every Senator has voted?

There used to be extensions but I think we removed them a few months ago since they were never used that I recall in the past four or five years.

We removed them? Injunction powers are still on the wiki.

Of course, I'll trust you more than the wiki.

IT might have been just for the amendment votes.
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« Reply #51 on: May 19, 2014, 03:00:44 PM »

Yes, it was just the amendment votes that we removed it. There is a 72 hour "injunction" that can be used to extend final votes.

 

And this has one day and a few hours left I think.
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« Reply #52 on: May 19, 2014, 03:02:20 PM »

One thing I had hoped to do was to expand the Nixcome in conjunction with these reductions in the minimum wage.

Since the tipped section never got addressed and there are other aspects of the minimum that some desire to be addressed, I figure we will have another bill soon on the matter and we can look at that when the time comes.
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« Reply #53 on: May 20, 2014, 03:13:50 PM »

What does this bill do for our minimum wage? Are the minimum wage changes dead?

The regular minimum wage is kept at 12.50 with this bill, instead of increasing.

I believe that 12.50 is indexed to inflation also under pre-FLSA statute.
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« Reply #54 on: May 20, 2014, 03:15:18 PM »

Vote on Final Passage of the Long-Term Unemployment Relief Act:

Aye (5): DC al Fine, Goldwater, Lumine, NC Yankee and shua
Nay (5): Adam Griffin, Alfred F. Jones, bore, TNF and TyriontheImperialist
Abstain (0):

Didn't Vote (0):

The final vote is tied I believe with time having expired.
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« Reply #55 on: May 21, 2014, 06:47:19 PM »

Frankly, I'm ashamed of the President for abandoning Atlasia's working class (and after he promised them higher wages, no less!). I stand united with Sen. TNF and the entire Labor Party in opposing this vile betrayal of the Atlasian people. If President Duke didn't want higher wages, he shouldn't have passed the FLSA in the first place.

Exactly! If he had such a problem with it before, why not utilize his ability to re-write the legislation? Why repeal it wholescale now? It's nonsense. Utter nonsense and contempt for working people.

In a way, this is even more cruel than if he had just vetoed the original bill - there are probably working families who were counting on those extra wages to get some time to themselves or buy a new car or some such thing.

Unless they were the ones who got layed off in ancitipation of having to pay higher labor costs. If you want to raise a stink about inconsistency of Atlasian Governance, then maybe we should leave the minumum wage alone for a while considering it is indexed to inflation. If we want to boost living standards why don't we increase the Nixcome instead of relying on something as flawed as the minimum wage to achieve that end.
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« Reply #56 on: May 21, 2014, 06:51:26 PM »

Frankly, I'm ashamed of the President for abandoning Atlasia's working class (and after he promised them higher wages, no less!). I stand united with Sen. TNF and the entire Labor Party in opposing this vile betrayal of the Atlasian people. If President Duke didn't want higher wages, he shouldn't have passed the FLSA in the first place.

I introduce you to Former Labor President Nix:
Even if we didn't have a basic income guarantee, I'd question the wisdom of the Fair Labor Standards Act. Raising the minimum wage to $18 within only 4 years doesn't seem like a good idea to me. I'm shocked that President Duke signed on to that. I would not have.
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« Reply #57 on: May 21, 2014, 06:51:48 PM »

Seriously people, read my interviews. Tongue
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« Reply #58 on: May 21, 2014, 06:54:12 PM »

Frankly, I'm ashamed of the President for abandoning Atlasia's working class (and after he promised them higher wages, no less!). I stand united with Sen. TNF and the entire Labor Party in opposing this vile betrayal of the Atlasian people. If President Duke didn't want higher wages, he shouldn't have passed the FLSA in the first place.

Exactly! If he had such a problem with it before, why not utilize his ability to re-write the legislation? Why repeal it wholescale now? It's nonsense. Utter nonsense and contempt for working people.

The FLSA was not repealed. Even the provision extending the minimum wage to peolpe under 18 was preserved. I used a rather fine scapel with my amendment.
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« Reply #59 on: May 21, 2014, 07:06:59 PM »

Everyone agrees that it would have been better back in December to raise the issue and take care of it then. If you make a mistake though, do you maintain a bad policy that you think will hurt more then help, or do you own up to and fix it before it is too late?

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« Reply #60 on: May 22, 2014, 06:37:17 PM »

Oh, the reversal (and the fact that our dear President seems to have overlooked one of the main components of a bill he signed) are but a small part of my and TNF's objection to the bill. We can debate the minimum wage vs. basic income all day (and I'm still not entirely sure what the levels of cash-money Nixcome provides are and how much they help people escape poverty), but I'm going to stand with the working class here.

You know there are ways to find that out. Tongue
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« Reply #61 on: May 22, 2014, 07:03:47 PM »

Oh, the reversal (and the fact that our dear President seems to have overlooked one of the main components of a bill he signed) are but a small part of my and TNF's objection to the bill. We can debate the minimum wage vs. basic income all day (and I'm still not entirely sure what the levels of cash-money Nixcome provides are and how much they help people escape poverty), but I'm going to stand with the working class here.

You know there are ways to find that out. Tongue

That would involve research, dear Yankee.  Surely we have little time for things such as spending thirty seconds to do a wiki search..

I am sure I forgot about that, I need to find those memory pills I should be takin....
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