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Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee
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« on: October 27, 2013, 11:44:45 PM »

I am offended I was not included in this grand conspiracy! Sad

Seriously, I have thought about going in there and helping get rid of the few individuals who are embarrassing the Federalist party. Perhaps I have said too much, but that's how I roll.

"Freedom's just another word....." Wink

I cannot load the first page of the thread to find out what is going on here exactly. The real scandal is that I am wasting so much time to try and load it. Tongue

This gets back to what I said before. At some point intensity goes to far and playing to win becomes win by any means necessary and that is not heathy for a political simulation where everything is fake anyway. People will get hurt and people will get pissed and someone will end up throwing up their hands and walking away as a result.

Also I would say that if the PROs are cannabalizing the Pacific to take over the Mideast, I think such will only be hurting the Pacific by restoring the region to its traditional one party domination and at the very least depriving it of activity and interest at a time when it desperately needs all it can get.
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Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee
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« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2013, 11:59:42 PM »
« Edited: October 28, 2013, 12:02:22 AM by Senator North Carolina Yankee »

I am offended I was not included in this grand conspiracy! Sad

Seriously, I have thought about going in there and helping get rid of the few individuals who are embarrassing the Federalist party. Perhaps I have said too much, but that's how I roll.

"Freedom's just another word....." Wink

I cannot load the first page of the thread to find out what is going on here exactly. The real scandal is that I am wasting so much time to try and load it. Tongue

This gets back to what I said before. At some point intensity goes to far and playing to win becomes win by any means necessary and that is not heathy for a political simulation where everything is fake anyway. People will get hurt and people will get pissed and someone will end up throwing up their hands and walking away as a result.

Also I would say that if the PROs are cannabalizing the Pacific to take over the Mideast, I think such will only be hurting the Pacific by restoring the region to its traditional one party domination and at the very least depriving it of activity and interest at a time when it desperately needs all it can get.
PRO has never had the intention of turning the Pacific into a one-party state. All registered Pacifican Progressives were already Pacificans when they registered as Progressives, or were new members.

You misunderstood me. I said if you were moving people out, not in, then you would be moving it towards a one party state.

Moving PROs in would probably actually help, not hurt the Pacific most likely but that is beside the point.
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Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee
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« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2013, 12:03:56 AM »

Cut this crap out, or I will declare your party a terrorist organization. I am also offended I haven't been recruited to join your party. The gal you all have!

At least you got recruited by someone.  I feel so unloved..almost wishing to be strategically motivated Sad

Well, you'll always have thoughts of Duke/Cincy to warm your heart. Smiley
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« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2013, 12:22:44 AM »

It sure is comforting to know that the enforcer has a "more-then-adequate" supply of strong drink. I can sleep in peace now. Tongue
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« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2013, 11:19:55 PM »

1. I am very sorry to all the Federalists who feel as though they were betrayed by PRO. However, I must point out Lumine and Superique had no idea this was even going on. As far as voting for them, your decision should not be changed by this incident.
2. The personal message I sent to Marnetmar never said it was  secret and should he have decided to move to the mideast, it would have been a little obvious when it happened.

It is a natural reaction and one shared by more then just Federalists I would imagine PJ. As I recall there are Pro-Life PROs as well as others who would have issues with it. Of course Lumine and Superique were out of the loop and that is why I actually sympathize greatly with them. I was denied votes as well during the RPP scandals of October 2009, which was stuff I opposed and tried to stop so I know what it is like. That is why a party's members should avoid these kinds of tactics for that reason, because their members will pay the price when it gets exposed and fellow members thus have an obligation to each other to keep things on the up and up.

One of the problems with the Pacific is no one ever has had the patience to build up a competative force there. They always just leave, which in turn makes it more boring and encourages more people to leave. Why would a Progressive Union member want to deprive a region of its own membership after having just come off the closest Regional Senate election in the country involving a Progressive Union member?

3. @ ZuWo: The following American Federalists are not registered in their home state IRL:

Goldwater
Dereich
Jack Enderman
SPC
PiT
MilesC56
Sbane


Atleast three of them are in the same region as their homestates. Dereich and sbane only recently left their home states for other states in the same region. Sbane may even have done it to fill in the gaps on the "Save our States" project thing, but I cannot recall.

PiT and SPC have been in the south for years and have had a strong connection to the place and its history and at the time they left, the Pacific was hardly hospitable territory if you weren't on bgwah's christmas card list.
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Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee
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« Reply #5 on: October 29, 2013, 12:27:07 AM »

1. I am very sorry to all the Federalists who feel as though they were betrayed by PRO. However, I must point out Lumine and Superique had no idea this was even going on. As far as voting for them, your decision should not be changed by this incident.
2. The personal message I sent to Marnetmar never said it was  secret and should he have decided to move to the mideast, it would have been a little obvious when it happened.

It is a natural reaction and one shared by more then just Federalists I would imagine PJ. As I recall there are Pro-Life PROs as well as others who would have issues with it. Of course Lumine and Superique were out of the loop and that is why I actually sympathize greatly with them. I was denied votes as well during the RPP scandals of October 2009, which was stuff I opposed and tried to stop so I know what it is like. That is why a party's members should avoid these kinds of tactics for that reason, because their members will pay the price when it gets exposed and fellow members thus have an obligation to each other to keep things on the up and up.

One of the problems with the Pacific is no one ever has had the patience to build up a competative force there. They always just leave, which in turn makes it more boring and encourages more people to leave. Why would a Progressive Union member want to deprive a region of its own membership after having just come off the closest Regional Senate election in the country involving a Progressive Union member?

3. @ ZuWo: The following American Federalists are not registered in their home state IRL:

Goldwater
Dereich
Jack Enderman
SPC
PiT
MilesC56
Sbane


Atleast three of them are in the same region as their homestates. Dereich and sbane only recently left their home states for other states in the same region. Sbane may even have done it to fill in the gaps on the "Save our States" project thing, but I cannot recall.

PiT and SPC have been in the south for years and have had a strong connection to the place and its history and at the time they left, the Pacific was hardly hospitable territory if you weren't on bgwah's christmas card list.

a. I am also deeply sorry to all Progressives. The ones you have referred to have received my apologies in private.

b. Regardless of the reason, my point is that people don't have to register in their home state. Doesn't Sbane live in Tennessee IRL?

Oh yeah, forgot all about that. I always associate him with California still.
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Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee
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« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2013, 07:38:11 PM »

Duke before the election:  I love everyone.  Everyone loves me.  Let's have a group hug.  Purple heart

Duke after the election:  Burn in hell Progressive Union!!!

He's probably been hitting the adult beveridges again, man.
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Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee
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« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2013, 11:46:30 PM »

The purpose is to reduce the occurence of strategic Registration. If they are in the same Region as their home states, then it matters less so. It also allowed for mass recruitment drives on a non-partisan basis to occur, like the ones that Fritz pushed as President, without the concern that it would be hijacked by partisans in the process.
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Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee
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« Reply #8 on: October 30, 2013, 08:25:47 AM »

Oh I am pretty sure he is one PM to Gustaf or Jedi away from it being deleted. Not surei f that means death points since I cannot recall whether that was done in the more recent examples on this board and most the instances that I recall were prior to the system's introduction. But it will definately be deleted.

Also this thread may end up locked as well.
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