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« on: December 10, 2012, 11:35:43 AM »
« edited: January 24, 2013, 12:25:19 AM by Senator North Carolina Yankee »

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« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2012, 11:37:04 AM »

Senator you have 24 hours to start advocating for this.
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« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2012, 12:00:40 PM »

I would seriously recommend townhalls on this or something. Because there will likely be some opposition to it, from certain old guard types. I don't know why that was put it in there like that, but it has been that way since time immemorial. That was the reason that I decided not to tamper with (and I think Scott was part of that process to) during the previous Impeachment Clarification Amendment and subsequent second attempt. It would have something that the Judiciary should have looked into.
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« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2012, 11:08:23 AM »

As Bacon King said, this bill needs to be altered to be functionally practical and even achieve what the sponsor desires.


As for the rest of what Bacon King said, I don't think he understood what I was saying. I was saying that underlying bill should have been considered by the Judiciary Committee to review any concerns and reasons why people would want to maintain the current system. The townhalls were similarly aimed at viewing public concern about the underlying bill. That entire paragraph was geared towards a "political strategy" to achieve passage of the underlying bill. Bacon King seemed to think I was listing ways to alter the impeachment process.
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« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2012, 11:18:40 AM »

Stupid question, did you use the newly ratified Impeachment Clarification Amendment, or the Wiki Constitution page, which hasn't been updated since Herman Cain was going to be the next President, as the baseline for writing this?

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« Reply #5 on: December 16, 2012, 04:22:58 PM »

This has been silent now for three days. Another and I will open vote.
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« Reply #6 on: December 17, 2012, 03:39:48 PM »

I MEAN ING BUSINESS GOD DAMN IT !!!!


A vote is now open finall passage of the Trial, Not Turnout Amendment, please vote Aye, Nay or Abstain.
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« Reply #7 on: December 17, 2012, 03:59:28 PM »

I have detailed the only situation that will lead me to halt this vote, in my PM.

If I don't get what I demand (active and substantive contributions and immediately), the bill will die as I squash it between my fingers like an insect.

Damn now I have to wash my hands.
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« Reply #8 on: December 20, 2012, 06:13:58 PM »

Oakvale, if you plan to do something, do it in the next 24 hours or your window of reprieve will close on this. Roll Eyes
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« Reply #9 on: December 22, 2012, 08:37:00 PM »

I am in generous mood because of the festive spirit of the holidays (actually not really considering our only car broke down yesterday and left us in a bit of tight spot) and am impressed with the substantive back and forth we seem to be having here, thus as such I am calling a halt to this vote. Senators have 72 hours to object.

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« Reply #10 on: December 29, 2012, 10:13:50 AM »

Seeing no objections, Oakvale's amendment has been adopted.


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« Reply #11 on: December 31, 2012, 05:52:38 PM »

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Status: A vote is now open on the above amendment, please vote Aye, Nay or Abstain.  
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« Reply #12 on: January 02, 2013, 08:28:58 PM »

Aye Guess




Damn, I should have got the song "Crazy on You" too. Oh well, you have to prioritize. Tongue
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« Reply #13 on: January 03, 2013, 09:12:24 PM »

We had 3-3-4 on an amendment in the AIT act, but I think we may have had 5-5 a few months ago.


Anyway this vote will end tomorrow afternoon unless a vote is changed.
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« Reply #14 on: January 04, 2013, 02:23:59 AM »

It is now failing 4-5-1 by my count. The vote will end at the expiration of time tomorrow afternoon or sooner if someone changes to Nay and I can get on before noon tomorrow to end it.


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« Reply #15 on: January 05, 2013, 10:37:59 AM »

Vote on the Passage of Amendment 52:37:

Aye (4): Franzl, HagridOfTheDeep, Marokai Blue and NC Yankee
Nay (5): Averroës Nix, Ben, Oakvale, Simfan and Snowstalker
Abstain (1): JulioMadrid

With time having expired at 05:52:38 pm on January 04, 2012, the vote tally is as follows and the Vice President can declare it as having thus failed.



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« Reply #16 on: January 07, 2013, 12:24:09 AM »

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« Reply #17 on: January 08, 2013, 01:55:49 AM »

Green Georgia versus Red Ohio.


Pass the popcorn! Oh I forget, I quit eating once it gets passed 10:30 PM. Nevermind!
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« Reply #18 on: January 08, 2013, 03:35:47 AM »

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« Reply #19 on: January 08, 2013, 03:38:21 AM »


You so sure? Just when you think you "have" him, he'll vanish right before your eyes and then pop up in place where and when you least expect it. You have to be fast to take him down. Tongue
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« Reply #20 on: January 09, 2013, 02:29:15 AM »

I temporarily (or maybe not, I'll want to see what input our new members have before reintoducing) withdraw my amendment and accept Barnes' as friendly.


You are about 7 and a half hours too late on doing that. The 24 hour objection period has passed and the VP now needs to declare it passed. IF you want Barnes' at this point, the best way to do that is to accept his as friendly. But first it should be changed to reflect any changes caused by your amendment that his doesn't reflect at present, since the current text is about to be your amendment.
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« Reply #21 on: January 10, 2013, 12:02:28 AM »

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Status: Presiding Officer can call 24 hours on passage of the above amendment.

You Know, I actually like doing things like this and technically me being PPT again wouldn't necessarily have to bring it to an end. Wink
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« Reply #22 on: January 11, 2013, 12:15:20 AM »

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Status: Objection Filed by the German. Senators, this amendment is now at vote, please vote Aye, Nay or Abstain. 
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« Reply #23 on: January 12, 2013, 06:47:37 AM »

NAY FOR THE REASON HAGRID STATED



Vote on Amendment 53:06 by Barnes:

Aye (2): Ben and Roy Barnes 2010
Nay (Cool: Averroës Nix, Franzl, HagridOfTheDeep, jdb, JulioMadrid, NC Yankee, Oakvale, and Spamage
Abstain (0):

Didn't Vote (0):

With eight votes in the negative and only two in the affirmative, the amendment has failed.
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« Reply #24 on: January 15, 2013, 03:34:02 PM »

Is this the entirety of the current text? I'll remove the bold when I start the final vote. Speaking of which, are we ready to do that?

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