Romney Adviser: Latinos 'Were Scared' To Vote For Romney

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

The problem here is the conflation of anti-illegal with anti-immigrant and the fact that the pro-enforcement crowd has not being effective at pushing back against the narrative established by the media and the Democrats (partly because it is never given the equal treatment in the debate, like when Reid tried to divide all the time between himself and Specter who both supported the bill in 2007 and the opponents ended up with only a 1/3rd. That has been made worse by the fact that bandwidth has been dominated by the economy for the last five years). Now we are in a position where the threshold issue that determines whether a two-party system is maintained or not is a race who see who can subvert the rule of law the quickest in exchange for political gain.

The problem with Comprehensive Immigration Reform based on the 1986 model and the reason it failed in 2007 isn't because of racists hating on hispanics, it is because a bipartisan group of people came to the conclusion based on the results historically that it doesn't work and thus shouldn't be pursued again. I think there is a bipartisan and compassionate solution to this issue that can be arrived at, but it won't be found using those previous failed policies as a model. There is nothing anti-Immigrant more or less anti-Hispanic about that. As for this guy being a "Romney advisor", he apparently wasn't all that familiar with his own damn boss in this campaign to then question whether or not the party is Pro-Immigration and relegate all of Romney's immigration positions to being "tough talk to win a primary".

I also don't believe you can achieve electoral gains by pushing bad policies that will definately fail, nor do I think that the Hispanic community is going to suddenly become a bunch of Tea Partiers because the Republicans all the sudden want to out race the Democrats in their efforts to push a bad idea through and subvert the rule of law. It sounds to me like the same people who poorly advised Romney's campaign on the issue of Hispanic outreach are now hard work providing their "proven insights" about the GOP's future as it relates to immigration policy. It makes sense though. If you think pro-enforcement is anti-Hispanic and you control the outreach efforts, it would thus become a self-fullfilling prophesy. This guy's job should have been to help develop a strategy to dispell the false narrative about the GOP and Romney's position, not embrace it and further it by providing advice based on that. But then again this is a GOP establishment, whose advisors and consultants operated based off of the "unskewed polls" bs.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

This is truly pathetic. Republicans claim they aren't racist, and to the most part, I agree, the general Republican populous most likely doesn't fantasize of a Great White Society. However, this belief about how Hispanics and Blacks can't vote properly, and how only White's "understand" this nation, is still in many of their minds. Whenever their is an article about a successful Hispanic immigrant, instead of complimenting them on their business and work ethic, the comments from Republicans are patronizing, and treating these people as if they were an ant farm, with comments such as "So good they didn't need to sneak in here" or "I wish more of them actually worked and came here LEGALLY like the rest of us". These comments are disturbing, and even as a non-hispanic caucasian, offensive.

Are these comments posted on here? If not, how do you know they are Republicans and not extreme independents or Constitutional Party people?

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

This is truly pathetic. Republicans claim they aren't racist, and to the most part, I agree, the general Republican populous most likely doesn't fantasize of a Great White Society. However, this belief about how Hispanics and Blacks can't vote properly, and how only White's "understand" this nation, is still in many of their minds. Whenever their is an article about a successful Hispanic immigrant, instead of complimenting them on their business and work ethic, the comments from Republicans are patronizing, and treating these people as if they were an ant farm, with comments such as "So good they didn't need to sneak in here" or "I wish more of them actually worked and came here LEGALLY like the rest of us". These comments are disturbing, and even as a non-hispanic caucasian, offensive.

Are these comments posted on here? If not, how do you know they are Republicans and not extreme independents or Constitutional Party people?

Ain't semantics fun, Yankee?

Replace "Republicans" with "Conservatives" and you'll get my point.

And you don't find judging a whole party and "what is on its members minds" based on what you find in obscure comments sections of websites on the internet, to be the least bit patronizing and condescending?

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

This is truly pathetic. Republicans claim they aren't racist, and to the most part, I agree, the general Republican populous most likely doesn't fantasize of a Great White Society. However, this belief about how Hispanics and Blacks can't vote properly, and how only White's "understand" this nation, is still in many of their minds. Whenever their is an article about a successful Hispanic immigrant, instead of complimenting them on their business and work ethic, the comments from Republicans are patronizing, and treating these people as if they were an ant farm, with comments such as "So good they didn't need to sneak in here" or "I wish more of them actually worked and came here LEGALLY like the rest of us". These comments are disturbing, and even as a non-hispanic caucasian, offensive.

Are these comments posted on here? If not, how do you know they are Republicans and not extreme independents or Constitutional Party people?

Ain't semantics fun, Yankee?

Replace "Republicans" with "Conservatives" and you'll get my point.

And you don't find judging a whole party and "what is on its members minds" based on what you find in obscure comments sections of websites on the internet, to be the least bit patronizing and condescending?

Not sure if what's your saying is "condescending", but I agree that what I said was irrational. I just meant that many of these "good-ole-boy" types have a prejudiced against LEGAL immigrant Hispanics, and treat them barely better than illegals.

Some of them do. Even amongst the no immigration at all or less immigration overall crowd, race isn't the motivating factor for all of them. Some of them are Labor Democrats, some of them are zero growth enviornmentalists and still more are just people to wake up every morning to a nonexistance lawn, read stories of LA stealing their last remaining bits of water and realize the glory days of population boom are over by necessity of carrying capacity. I think that position goes to far, but I don't over generalize and question there motives behind it if they are legitimate concerns. If anything it means we should seek to stop illegla immigration so that we can have real limits on immigration so that we can be sure we aren't over strecthing resources with too much, too fast. Limits that can be moved up or down as needed or as practical.