SENATE BILL: 5th Amendment to the Proportional Representation Act (law'd)

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Considering the system we are dealing with here, I don't see much justification for sticklerism regarding winners and losers. Such would inevitably require one to toss the whole thing.


As to a solution to the problem that precipated this, I presently have a fairly open mind as to the solution. One thing is for certain. We shouldn't have to delay four weeks to hold a special election, when we know for sure someone, who won, isn't going to take their seat immediately after the election finished.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

We have a problem that needs to be solved here, one way or the other.


Nay

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Re-reading the OSPR, it looks like you can't motion to table until the 72 hour debate period has passed... But it's a little unclear. Thoughts, Yankee?

What are you reading that you are interpretting as such?

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As long as debate is occuring Section 5 allows it regardless of which piece of debate we are in (first, second tihrd 72 hours and so on). Another Section though, is another story.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Well you probably would need to cite that later sections on special elections, but other than that I would be fine with that idea. As I said, I really don't have a preference between by elections or like with the current text, recalculating the results without the top 5 finishers. 


As for the current text you would also need a set standard for someone to officially decline their seat, like requiring that notification be given to the PPT or the SoFE by the Senator-elect declining to take a seat. Otherwise you might have people claiming they didn't seriously mean it or whatever.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Well yes I would be more specific, and cite another part of the PRA dealing with special elections. But I was just wondering, for those who dislike my original idea, if something along the lines of that proposal would be preferable.

I know, but the blank page was becoming annoying to me, so I thought I would "help".

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

What would you guys think about just letting the parties choose a replacement?

This would be most beneficial to a party that could only win 1/5 seats, but not a 1 seat special election. So this isn't me trying to craft something that would be beneficial to the JCP...

But you see, whatever you do is insidous plot to help JCP.

Not that different from Obama and his proposals all being an insidious plot to install marxism.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

As I said bgwah, I really don't have a preference. If you want to try something different, I'll give it a chance.


I think it would help if this were more then a three person conference.


Are the other seven on Greek Junkets?

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Aye.


It's consistent with your previous amendment dealing with vacancies in the final six weeks of a term.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

The way the RPP handles things like this is to appoint someone who fits in ideologically with the person who they are replacing. At least whenever we have discussed it in the past that is what we want to do.

And keep in mind I don't support appointments if we are 20% into the term. This is just for people like homely who resigned immediately. I think it's really inefficient to have an election right after an election has ended.

He meant having an appointed Senator serve longer then 20% of the term which an appoint in this instance would entail.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

If this were to pass, I would push for a bylaw in the RPP that vote be held on the choice prior to the choice being officially appointed by the chairman.

Though the 72 hour clause might make that difficult.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Is your first amendment in that post, the same one from the 7th, bgwah?

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Aye