SENATE BILL: Reduction of Registration Requirements Amendment (Pass to Regions)

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

If anybody doubted the need for an amendment tracker, here is why it is needed



The sponsor hasn't even responded with that regarding my amendment on the previous page.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

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[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

50:14 or fight!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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How is this then?

Which reminds me, we need to figure out the numbering system if my tracker is continued.

How does the sponsor regard this amendment, since it was offered before Snowguy's.

I thought Minnesotan's were nice, now they are budging in line.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Submit your best angry PM for me to send to HappyWarrior. I'll take the winning entry and put it to good use.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Approved.  Sorry I forgot this was under my sponsorship since it is an administration bill lol.

Senators have 24 hours to object to Amendment 1.


@Marokai (I do this to avoid quoting his long post which would trigger my scrolling issue)
Trivializing and condemning isn't going to improve anything. Some people do have legitimate differences and concerns with reducing these at all and I would prefer to do something rather then nothing. If activity were your singular focus, yes this would be insufficient, but some do have long memories and even longer grudges that have yet to be settled, and as such I think there will be a strong push to maintain strict standards for membership for some time to come.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

A waiting period will be more effective at screening out spam posters who want to jump in the fight.  I think you all overestimate the patience of these types.

Some people want to join Atlas mainly to be involved in Atlasia... which is a GOOD THING!  A two week waiting period where they write only 15 posts should not make them any less qualified to join the ranks of Atlasia.

Please vote yes on the amended bill.  I will gladly write a new bill strengthening requirements should things go south.

I'm sorry the only amendments I see have 50 (mine currently under consideration) and no post requirement (Yours which is next for consideration), what had 15 in it?

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Why do you dwell on this "shaving 1 day" thing. The underlying bill reduces it to 7, that clearly doesn't have the votes to pass from the course of the debate. 50:14 seemed to have the most support from people. Some support fourteen because its easier to count out then 15. Whatever the case, idea to lower the number of days very drastically has been rejected. So what are we supposed to do. Toss the bill and do nothing?

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

As far as I know after doing some looking, this is still law: https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Anti-Zombie_Act_of_2009

So, an outsider though I am, I would suggest the possibility of axing this current debate altogether, and settling on a compromise of repealing that law and reducing the posting requirement 8-weeks before an election to 15, instead of the current 25.

Marokai, surely you mock us. That would do absolutely nothing except preserve zombie voters that would otherwise be trimmed. Talk about trivilization.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

As far as I know after doing some looking, this is still law: https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Anti-Zombie_Act_of_2009

So, an outsider though I am, I would suggest the possibility of axing this current debate altogether, and settling on a compromise of repealing that law and reducing the posting requirement 8-weeks before an election to 15, instead of the current 25.

Marokai, surely you mock us. That would do absolutely nothing except preserve zombie voters that would otherwise be trimmed. Talk about trivilization.

It would certainly have more an impact than knocking a handful of numbers off of registration requirements for absolutely no reason. (No, I don't count "it's what most people support" as a legitimate reason.)

You can't pass a bill without 6 votes or 5 votes and the VP, so while it may not be a legitimate reason, it is often the most powerful one.

You are going to have to explain how that does more because I just fail to see it at this present time.

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Since the sponsor didn't specify, I'll assume he was only responding to mine and not both. Therefore, how does the sponsor view this amendment?

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Senators have 24 hours to object.


An objection has already been entered, albeit probably illegally, but I am in good mood today and will accept it. A vote shall begin when I feel like starting it.

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Senators a vote is now open on the above amendment, please vote Aye, Nay, or Abstain.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Nay

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Oh Senators!!! Your breakin my heart, your shaking my confidence daily
Oh Senators!!! I'm down on my knees, I'm begging you please come vote

Now vote you remaining Senators (Rowan is exempt from pain this time but only if his LOA included today) or I continue to destroy your ears and murderously torture the legacy of Simon & Garfunkel.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I have seen nothing wrong with a vote taking its fully required time if the split is tied 5-5. I do have a problem with a vote tacking its full time if its tied at 4-4 or one sides leads but is under 6 with 2 or 3 HAVING NOT VOTED!!!!

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Final Vote on Amendment 4 by Snowguy to the Reduction of Registration Requirements Amendment:

Aye (1): Snowguy716
Nay (5): AHDuke99, Antonio V, HappyWarrior, Kalwejt, and NC Yankee
Abstain (1): shua

FAILED TO VOTE (3): bgwah, Oakvale and RowanBrandon.

You three better have a damned good excuse.

The amendment has failed!

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

So new idea, per Junkie:

Perhaps make extremely low requirements (if any) to join the game. Make another set of requirements to actually vote.

Thoughts? I will say, this would be a bit more of a hassle for the RG, SoFE, and party chairmen.

Don't we already have two sets of requirements for joining and voting?

I feel like this will just create unnecessary confusion. Is it really a big deal to be registered but not be allowed to vote? I mean, you post in the new register thread that you live in a state and then what? You're free to participate in discussion whether you're registered or not. I'm not sure what this does except to make a nightmare for all of us. I can't imagine Yankee and myself having to figure out who is eligible to vote each time we have an election.

How would that be difficult for Yankee, yourself, and I, as well as other party's leaders? All you do is look at their post count, and if it's above whatever number we'd set, they're golden.

I could have sworn we have already been doing this. But I might be mistaken.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

*continues grumbling even though everyone aside from Duke is clearly not listening*

Oh, I am listening.  Just don't have much to say, at present.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I think the Seattle-St. Paul axis made some good points. I don't think Libertas, Hamilton, Segway, Vane, True Liberty and company would have lasted half as long as they ended up doing, with Nym possessing a guillotine.


I would be more in favor of an overall lowering of the requirements if that options is paired against pre-registration. I don't think that pre-registration would provide the desired effects, but it would certainly guarrantee the extra effort of the RG as the price.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

We seem to be going in circles here.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Its a shame that people prefer the shock value of scandals and intrigue over practically everything else. I always considered such to be something that occured on the margins, an unnecessary extention and distraction from what made the game great. Thus it lessoned the game and it seemlingly was caused by carelessness or irresponsibility, so it seemed quite easy to purge it. I shudder to think that we find ourselves openly questioning whether taking such a concerted action, against something that was destroying the game, actually succeeded ultimately in destroying it. hmmmm!!!!

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Universal figure of hate? What the hell is this, the end of Code Geass?

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Universal figure of hate? What the hell is this, the end of Code Geass?

Listen to me! What I'm saying is nothing has happened in Atlasia to shake things up in quite sometime. That's why we are seeing such a lack of activity. It isn't because registration requirements are too high! Looking at recent activity, we aren't having any trouble getting new members to sign up. We are having a time keeping them, and even older members, active!

I know I've been away for a few days, but surely I'm not going crazy!

I can't for the life of me figure out what you are responding to in such fashion. You must have misunderstood my previous post, for I had no thought of calling anyone crazy, save for Atlasia's present state maybe.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

So what should be done?



Get someone to be Mr. Evil for the next six months?

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

So what should be done?



Get someone to be Mr. Evil for the next six months?

I think we're vearing off track. I said I'd support 50:14 and I stand by that. I am just saying it likely will do nothing for activity. In short, I'm supporting 50:14 cause I said I would, not because I believe it will do anything.

Oh yes, my amendment from like three weeks ago.


I think you just lost Marokai Blue with that line of reasoning.