General Senatorial Discussion

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

New Order of Seniority
NC Yankee  2009
AHDuke99 2010
Bgwah  2010
Antonio V  2011
Snowguy716  2011
shua  2011
Fuzzybigfoot 2011
Napoleon 2011
Officepark 2011
Jbrase 2011

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

It would be nice to actually have some discussion of bills before we vote on them.

1. I was told it was non-controversial. A SINGLE Senator could have objected and debate would have proceeded as scheduled. But not one single senator raised their hand to object. Ohhh, Fahrenheit 911 .


2. This rule change was sitting before the Senate a month before it got finally passed. The amendment including UC was passed without objection and the final OSPR amendment was passed into effect.

It would be nice to actually have some discussion of bills before we vote on them.

Discussion besides giving a simple opinion helps. At least you and a couple others are capable .

true. but kind of hard when cloture is bypassed and the vote starts before there's any chance.

You are complaining about the wrong thing. We hardly did cloture votes as it were. The change you are complaining about is the ability to overide the minimum 72 hour debate time via UC. It will take some getting used to of course but eventually it will be very efficient on bills that everyone agrees on.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

We really should have held off on the final vote until the sponsor's requested Monday for the Comprehensive Social Security Reform Act.

That was the plan, until the sponsor change his mind. And made a post calling for a final vote.


If the sponsor changes his mind again and wants to continue, we can pull one of BK's patented tricks to shutdown the final vote.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I don't know what this generic right v left ocntroversy is but it bores me so I'll just ignore it. I simply don't believe 24 hours is enough time to spend considering a bill. I don't think it's reasonable to expect that everyone will even see the thread in that amount of time. I have always tried with my bills to allow a chance for other Senators to raise concerns rahter than go to a vote too quickly even if it looked like the bill would pass easily.

Aside from that, if a bill is important enough that it needs to be rushed, the least that can be done is for the sponsor to make a statement explaining why it's needed. If you want my vote, advocate for it.
For example, when I proposed my recent constitutional amendment, I explained it in a public thread before it even came to a vote in the Senate. I don;t think it's completely coincidental that of the recent proposed constitutional amendments, mine is the one is suceeding with unanimous support

I agree, Senators should review each other's work too look for problems they failed to notice. At the same time, there have been instances where there was no debate at all in a thread and we had to just wait the 72 hours doing nothing. That is what I primarily intended this change to be for. And if you want reviewing of bills, then maybe a more active Senate is required. The presence of this procedure will hopefully provide some motivation as well for innactive and inattentive Senators to pay attention to whats happening.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Does anyone know off hand what the limit on the number of bills one Senator can have on the floor at a time, if any limit at all? I can't remember from the last time this came up (though 5 and 3 stick in my head), and I haven't had any luck finding it in the wiki.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

My third Semester begins tomorrow. For the first time since High School, I have classes all five weekdays. Mondays and Wednesday are the heaviest. As many of you know, the internet is not a utility present for me wherever I go (Stupid Cellphones these days, what the hell is the world coming too? ). So, essentially, none of you have to worry about me pulling two-three weeks of morning only online activity like in July.

Too make a long story short, I may not get on tomorrow.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

It felt awkward last July, especially with that issue regarding bgwah's undeclared candidacy.

I haven't made up my mind yet and it's possible I may not run again at all, still. Though in case I decide to do so this potential issue is resolved.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

New Order of Seniority
NC Yankee  2009
AHDuke99 2010
Bgwah  2010
Snowguy716  2011
Fuzzybigfoot 2011
Napoleon 2011
Officepark 2011
Jbrase 2011
BRTD 2011
TBD

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Senate Order of Senority
NC Yankee 2009
MoPolitico 2011
Nathan 2011
TJ in Cleve 2012
Scott 2012
Sbane 2012
Clarence 2012
ilikeverin 2012
Pingvin99 2012
Alfred F. Jones 2012

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I have only been PPT an hour and I have already violated the OSPR. I am a long term incumbent so no one will think about pressing charges.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

You have until tomorrow to decide whether or not you want to take on Marokai, Oakvales, or Junkie's sitting bills, otherwise they get canned. I'll take the Nuke one that I illegally introduced if no one else wants it.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Marokai Blue dispatched Napoleon's languishing bills as per the OSPR with great haste, he didn't extend the same courtesy to the bills of bgwah, and other now former Senators. It is my opinion that the game needs debate, not a filled trash can. So I am going to ignore the OSPR's trashcan provision and allow these to be brought to the floor. So which of the remaining Senators wants to take these?

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

You six suck dick, big time!!!


GOD DAMN IT, I'M TALKING HERE, I'M TALKING HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Of the 12 remaining bills in the queue, I think 8 are either from bgwah or Jake Matthews. They need new sponsors.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I am instituting a new policy. With exception of leaves of Absence, the failure of a sponsor to post in a bill in the first 24 hours will lead me to motion to table the bill.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I am instituting a new policy. With exception of leaves of Absence, the failure of a sponsor to post in their bill's thread with regards to advocating for the measure in the first 24 hours will lead me to motion to table the bill.

Try skatting around that, Scott.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Another New Policy:

Supposing the sponsor does post in 24 hours, but no one argues against the Bill in the same period, this situation will lead me to invoke UC which will allow us to proceed to a final vote after a minimum of only 48 hours in this scenario. There will be no LOA exception for this one.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I have bad news,


I knew I had a lot of school work to do today, but I hadn't planned on another assignment being foisted on top of that, which I have just finished. The Good news is that after seven hours it is finished. The bad news is that the other stuff I have to do today, remains to be done. I'll do my best, but I doubt I will get to do much today for the Senate. The OSPR bill gets to sit another day, which is pissing me off because I wanted to start working on the committees last weekend.

I expect to be back up to speed tomorrow night, and things to be caught up completely by Wednesday.

If MoPolitico still hasn't showed and doesn't by tomorrow, he is screwed six ways to Sunday.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

"No time left for you"


Poor MoPolitico has run out of energy, run out of time, and unfortunately he will likely be run out of town for it.


Expulsion proceedings will soon start!


Edit: Well after dinner that is.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

President of the Senate: Vice President Tmthforu94

Senate Order of Senority
NC Yankee 2009 - President Pro-Tempore
Nathan 2011 - Senate Dean
TJ in Cleve 2012
Scott 2012
Sbane 2012
Clarence 2012
ilikeverin 2012
Pingvin99 2012
Alfred F. Jones 2012
Vacant

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Now we only have 1 Senator who's from pre-2012.

It appears that turnover of the bottom 9 has increased significantly recently. I noticed that during the absence of my updated senority lists (September through March), all the Senators on the September list were gone by March, save the same 1 you mention. And by May about half the March list will have departed from our midst.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Senators, I only have 30 minutes left tonight for Senate stuff and the site is running very slow for me, like most primary nights.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

President of the Senate: Vice President Tmthforu94

Senate Order of Senority
NC Yankee 2009 - President Pro-Tempore
Nathan 2011 - Senate Dean
TJ in Cleve 2012
Scott 2012
Sbane 2012
Clarence 2012
ilikeverin 2012
Pingvin99 2012
Alfred F. Jones 2012
Benconstine 2012

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

President of the Senate: Vice President Tmthforu94

Senate Order of Senority
NC Yankee 2009 - President Pro-Tempore
TJ in Cleve 2012 - Senate Dean
Scott 2012
Sbane 2012
Clarence 2012
ilikeverin 2012
Benconstine 2012
Wormyguy 2012
Seatown 2012
AndrewPA 2012

Just realized I never posted the latest one. And since this Senate is ending soon, no time like the present to get it done.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

President of the Senate: Vice President Kalwejt

Senate Order of Senority
NC Yankee 2009 - President Pro-Tempore
TJ in Cleve 2012 - Senate Dean
Scott 2012
Sbane 2012
Clarence 2012
Benconstine 2012
Wormyguy 2012
Seatown 2012
AndrewPA 2012
Redalgo 2012