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Arizona Iced Tea
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Junior Chimp
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« on: March 09, 2024, 05:20:56 PM »



WHY can Dems never say illegal immigrant instead of undocumented?
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Arizona Iced Tea
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2024, 12:31:50 AM »

Illegal as a noun makes it sound like their existence is illegal as opposed to their immigration status.
I'm pretty sure murder is illegal too.
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Arizona Iced Tea
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2024, 02:39:23 PM »

Saying someone is an illegal is a dehumanizing term. Biden did the right thing to apologize.

Dehumanizing cold blooded killers is okay, actually. The only other world leader who would balk at such a term is Trudeau - not good company.

Yeah but he's doing it in the context of undocumented immigrants as a class. It works very much like a racial slur. And we would recognize racial slurs as unacceptable even when used against rapists and murderers because they implicate innocent people by implicitly grouping them together with the killer on the basis of a perceived shared identity.

The only thing this guy necessarily has in common with other undocumented immigrants is they happened to be born outside the U.S. but they wanted to be here so much that they came without authorization.

Undocumented immigrants made the choice to cut in line and cheat the system. Undocumented is not an unchangeable characteristic like race either

Yes, but that's not the reason they're hated by Republicans. Look, there are obviously legitimate arguments against unlimited immigration but lets not pretend the GOP dehumanizes undocumented immigrants for any other reason than the majority being non-white.

There's just enough wiggle room for them to have plausible deniability. Remember when they claimed their only problem was with ILLEGAL immigration because "oh its totally unfair to legal immigrants who got in line blah blah"? And within months of when Trump got into office they start to try to cut legal immigration as well. By 2020 they are even onto going through decades of naturalization applications to try and find excuses to denaturalize people. Don't play along with it.
It's not conservatives fault that most people who choose to enter illegal are non-white.
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