regions and districts

[dunn]

for those who asked

regions and districts

[dunn]

[dunn]

that's what the people voted

the senate can change them but that was the vote, hell I didn't even vted for that plan, but the people have spoken

[dunn]

regions and disteicts = the first one is regions and the second disteicts....

[dunn]

ok thanks Dunn

welcome
I am waiting for that mail

[dunn]

ok thanks Dunn

welcome
I am waiting for that mail

mail?

sorry' my mistake. I thought for a sec you were mass117

[dunn]

The Districts map obviously sucks and has to be remade, but this would have to be done anyway at some point. The regions map suck as well, but we knew that was gonna happen from the beginning, that's why we created it. But the regions map MUST have a sensible reason for its division. Now, you can EITHER argue the number of states (10 in each) OR some cultural divide. This map has neitehr.  

I agree, but we voted on that a few days ago. it's the people choice. once there is a senate I guess changing it will not be hard

[dunn]

The Districts map obviously sucks and has to be remade, but this would have to be done anyway at some point. The regions map suck as well, but we knew that was gonna happen from the beginning, that's why we created it. But the regions map MUST have a sensible reason for its division. Now, you can EITHER argue the number of states (10 in each) OR some cultural divide. This map has neitehr.  

I agree, but we voted on that a few days ago. it's the people choice. once there is a senate I guess changing it will not be hard

I say again, I was against that, BUT the people chose it. what can I say - we are a democracy
But it's kind of weird to hold a senate election with those maps...and some senators might be inclined against changing the maps, you know...

[dunn]

The region map- which doesn't have 10 states each- was approved in the same voting where the Constitution was approved- the Constitution which clearly states that each region has 10 states.

In other words, the voters have approved contradictary proposals.  In my opinion, the vote for the Constitution supercedes the vote for which map to use.

If you go ahead with this map for regions, then the clause in the section stating regions have 10 states each needs to be re-written.  (I guess the Constitution needs to be re-written, anyway.)

Perhaps the voters did not clearly understand they were voting for a map which would not give an equal number of states to each region (since they also voted for a Constitution that said otherwise).  If this applies to you, please speak up.

Have you all noticed I'm a stickler for procedural detail?  

another goos reson to be progressive
we are like that - Lewis, Peter, Emsworth, Siege, Nick and myself

[dunn]

Thats because you created it, Harry

The regions need 10 states, and the distriicts need equal members, as per the constitution.

We can't change regions once they are set, and once we have senators for those regions-they are permanent, as it says in the constitution-so, lets settle it now.

I'll create a new thread JUST for 10 state proposals. I know it it the 50 millionth one, but we really need to get this right.

The 10-state idea is in Amendment IV of the constitution proposed by DemRepDan.  We didn't approve this amendment...we approved an alternative map that doesn't have exactly ten states in each region.  But their is nothing in the part of the Constitution that we approved (the main body) that mandates 10-state regions.

exectly