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Countess Anya of the North Parish
cutie_15
Junior Chimp
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E: -4.39, S: -4.35

« on: June 24, 2010, 12:56:13 AM »

ahhh fate. I myself don't believe in that. Because i believe we have free will to a certain extent. if you believe in fate then you are saying you really don't have free will. whatever you do god had destined it for you. thereby eliminating the option of being able to determine your 'destiny'. funny how fate, free will and existentialism all fit in a funny way.

I believe that reincarnation has a role in that. that depending on how bad the previous person was is how bad god will view you in your next life. and I also think is has to do with that some people must be 'fated' to go to hell to keep the fear of god in their eyes to keep order.
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Countess Anya of the North Parish
cutie_15
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 5,561
United States


Political Matrix
E: -4.39, S: -4.35

« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2010, 02:18:57 AM »

I believe in complete free will too but if fate is always looked at as something that couldn't have happened otherwise and as a past term rather than future then fate happens out of necessity and by definition. If I get a root beer out of the vending machine, then could I have acted otherwise? Yes but now it's too late.
hmmm so what would you think the opposite of fate for the future is?
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Countess Anya of the North Parish
cutie_15
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 5,561
United States


Political Matrix
E: -4.39, S: -4.35

« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2010, 02:38:36 AM »

I believe in complete free will too but if fate is always looked at as something that couldn't have happened otherwise and as a past term rather than future then fate happens out of necessity and by definition. If I get a root beer out of the vending machine, then could I have acted otherwise? Yes but now it's too late.
hmmm so what would you think the opposite of fate for the future is?

opposite would be just free will. Your future is whatever you make of it Annie.
when you say free will, you mean absolute free will?
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Countess Anya of the North Parish
cutie_15
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 5,561
United States


Political Matrix
E: -4.39, S: -4.35

« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2010, 02:46:39 AM »

I believe in complete free will too but if fate is always looked at as something that couldn't have happened otherwise and as a past term rather than future then fate happens out of necessity and by definition. If I get a root beer out of the vending machine, then could I have acted otherwise? Yes but now it's too late.
hmmm so what would you think the opposite of fate for the future is?

opposite would be just free will. Your future is whatever you make of it Annie.
when you say free will, you mean absolute free will?

What do you mean by absolute? I mean we do things because we decide to do them and nothing is forcing us or pre-determining it. Your nick name I find inappropriate Annie.
I mean as you put it complete free will. there is not even a little of us that is predetermined? if not then why are some people just talented at certain things?

aww I spent all night looking for what ecr called me. let me guess you want me to change it. Sad
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Countess Anya of the North Parish
cutie_15
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 5,561
United States


Political Matrix
E: -4.39, S: -4.35

« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2010, 02:51:36 AM »

I believe in complete free will too but if fate is always looked at as something that couldn't have happened otherwise and as a past term rather than future then fate happens out of necessity and by definition. If I get a root beer out of the vending machine, then could I have acted otherwise? Yes but now it's too late.
hmmm so what would you think the opposite of fate for the future is?

opposite would be just free will. Your future is whatever you make of it Annie.
when you say free will, you mean absolute free will?

What do you mean by absolute? I mean we do things because we decide to do them and nothing is forcing us or pre-determining it. Your nick name I find inappropriate Annie.
I mean as you put it complete free will. there is not even a little of us that is predetermined? if not then why are some people just talented at certain things?

aww I spent all night looking for what ecr called me. let me guess you want me to change it. Sad

Changing it would be appropriate. People have talents out of nature. It's something we're born with. We're all different in our own ways. Gnite though lol.
right but wouldn't that not be complete free will? we are not able to choose what we are naturally talented at no?
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