Capital Punishment Abolition Amendment to the Constitution (Passed)

[Associate Justice PiT]

     I've given this thought, & I'm not sure that capital punishment is something that should be necessarily ruled out for regions to use in extreme cases.

[Associate Justice PiT]

     I've given this thought, & I'm not sure that capital punishment is something that should be necessarily ruled out for regions to use in extreme cases.

Why should it be any different than for the federal government?

     I would prefer generally decentralized power. Regions have the freedom to eliminate the death penalty themselves, but I don't see the great need to force it on a region that does not wish to forgo the option of using the death penalty.

[Associate Justice PiT]

     I've given this thought, & I'm not sure that capital punishment is something that should be necessarily ruled out for regions to use in extreme cases.

Why should it be any different than for the federal government?

     I would prefer generally decentralized power. Regions have the freedom to eliminate the death penalty themselves, but I don't see the great need to force it on a region that does not wish to forgo the option of using the death penalty.

I generally agree with the sentiment...but it seems like some things have to be restricted at the highest possible level. You wouldn't support allowing regions to decide if they wanted to use torture, would you?

Now you may claim that the death penalty is different....but for me at least, the only difference is current legality.

I think the federal government has the right...and the responsibility...to use its power accordingly to protect human rights.

     I think the death penalty, carried out properly, could be considered more humane than life imprisonment without possibility of parole, especially for younger offenders who may face 60-70 years in prison. I would gladly support an amendment mandating that any executions occur via guillotine, but I do not know about this. I may just choose to abstain, but I don't know yet.

[Associate Justice PiT]

     Nay

[Associate Justice PiT]

      The morality of the majority is forced on the minority.

[Associate Justice PiT]

     The morality of the majority is forced on the minority.

It still has to be approved by the people. Even then, that is the way that the democratic process works, for better or for worse.

     I know, though I dislike four regions deciding the policy of a fifth region.

      The morality of the majority is forced on the minority.

Ummm....that's a pretty weak argument. You wouldn't argue that a federal law against murder is imposing the morality of the majority on the minority, would you?

     I actually was just voicing my displeasure with this rather than putting forth an argument, though in reference to your example, I would say that all of the regions are fine with outlawing murder, so that would be a non-issue.

[Associate Justice PiT]

I actually was just voicing my displeasure with this rather than putting forth an argument, though in reference to your example, I would say that all of the regions are fine with outlawing murder, so that would be a non-issue.

The whole principle that the majority is forcing their morality on the minority is flawed, in my opinion.

Why is it different if the federal government forces it on the regions than if the regions force it on townships?

Somewhat is legislating morality in any case....and I'm sure you can find lots of people in regions in which capital punishment is outlawed that support capital punishment.

Is that not forcing morality on them?

     While you make a good point, I should throw out there that in Atlasia the regions are the lowest level of government for all intents & purposes, unless we wished to appoint each voter mayor of a particular plot of land to decide whether or not they will have the death penalty legal there.

     I actually agree that it is not a great argument, supposing that one dislikes anarchy as a form of government. A necessary part of any organized government is that some people are unhappy with how things are run.