The most/least arrogant religious groups

[Associate Justice PiT]

     Based on the criteria outlined in the original post, I would say that Jehovah's Witnesses or Mormons are the most arrogant, while Jews or Agnostics are the least arrogant.

Let me say that atheists are the least arrogant as they believe we are all going to the same place after death..... Buddhists among religious groups.

     I would say that Agnostics are less arrogant than Atheists because Agnostics are officially undecided. Also, I've met some hardcore militant Atheists in my time.

[Associate Justice PiT]

Let me say that atheists are the least arrogant as they believe we are all going to the same place after death..... Buddhists among religious groups.

     I would say that Agnostics are less arrogant than Atheists because Agnostics are officially undecided. Also, I've met some hardcore militant Atheists in my time.

Yes I was thinking atheist/agnostic as one camp. But yeah those who are convinced there is no god are just as arrogant as those totally being convinced there is a god.

     Okay, if you consider Atheists & Agnostics to be one group, then they're definitely the least arrogant between Agnostics & more moderate Atheists.

     I'm thinking now that I was short-sighted in mentioning Jews. All of the Jewish people I've known have been really non-religious types who just spaced out when they were sitting at Temple. However, if you're talking about Orthodox Jews, that's a different story.

[Associate Justice PiT]

I've always found white, western Buddhists to be extremely arrogant and very irritating.

How so? I doubt they would try and convince others their religious view is the one and only way.  That doesn't sound like a buddhist. 

     Most white western Buddhists don't understand what it means to be a Buddhist. Or do you think the Beatles would have become Puritans if they had the chance?

[Associate Justice PiT]

Agnostics, Mainline Protestants and Universalists(duh)

Southern Baptism is highly arrogant, as are other evangelical groups. Converts tend to be more arrogant than people born into their religion.

     I don't think evangelical groups would be classed under "Mainline Protestant."

[Associate Justice PiT]

Agnostics, Mainline Protestants and Universalists(duh)

Southern Baptism is highly arrogant, as are other evangelical groups. Converts tend to be more arrogant than people born into their religion.

     I don't think evangelical groups would be classed under "Mainline Protestant."

I know. But Mainline Protestants aren't particularly unarrogant.

     Still, you shouldn't use evangelicals as an example of the arrogance of Mainline Protestants.

[Associate Justice PiT]

Agnostics, Mainline Protestants and Universalists(duh)

Southern Baptism is highly arrogant, as are other evangelical groups. Converts tend to be more arrogant than people born into their religion.

     I don't think evangelical groups would be classed under "Mainline Protestant."

I know. But Mainline Protestants aren't particularly unarrogant.

     Still, you shouldn't use evangelicals as an example of the arrogance of Mainline Protestants.

I wasn't.

     I'm confused then. How do you explain EMD's post & your response to it?

[Associate Justice PiT]

I view faith as a gift, not a curse. That is how woolly headed this near atheist is!  I just was not predestined to be so gifted with the ability to make a leap of faith. Atheists can't jump.

     I found that out the hard way.

[Associate Justice PiT]

I view faith as a gift, not a curse. That is how woolly headed this near atheist is!  I just was not predestined to be so gifted with the ability to make a leap of faith. Atheists can't jump.

     I found that out the hard way.

What's your story if I may ask?  Mine, is that the skeptical tradition goes back generations in my clan.

     Playing basketball.

[Associate Justice PiT]

I view faith as a gift, not a curse. That is how woolly headed this near atheist is!  I just was not predestined to be so gifted with the ability to make a leap of faith. Atheists can't jump.

     I found that out the hard way.

What's your story if I may ask?  Mine, is that the skeptical tradition goes back generations in my clan.

     Playing basketball.

Oh! IC - at last.

     Yeah. I can still play defense though, since I'm taller than nearly everyone else in the school.

[Associate Justice PiT]

Agnostics, Mainline Protestants and Universalists(duh)

Southern Baptism is highly arrogant, as are other evangelical groups. Converts tend to be more arrogant than people born into their religion.

     I don't think evangelical groups would be classed under "Mainline Protestant."

I know. But Mainline Protestants aren't particularly unarrogant.

     Still, you shouldn't use evangelicals as an example of the arrogance of Mainline Protestants.

I wasn't.

     I'm confused then. How do you explain EMD's post & your response to it?

The two parts were unrelated.

     Okay, I see now.

[Associate Justice PiT]

Least-Agnostics.

Agnostics are pretty damn arrogant. After all, they take the most "intellectual" stance on religious beliefs.

lol what the hell is bad about that? I don't agree with it but I sympathize.

I was mocking the idea that they're the most intellectually superior religious group (as they often think they are).

Oh haha I see what you mean there.

     I once knew an Agnostic who told me that Agnosticism is the only tenable belief, because it is impossible to know for a fact whether God exists or not.

[Associate Justice PiT]

So because I cannot believe I am arrogant? LOL. Note that I never said god does not exist. I am just a confused little boy......

No, I'm saying that that's the arrogance - the insistance in believing that we, as believers, are saying something that we're not really saying.

Look you believe in god. You do not know whether god exists and neither do any of us. Believing in god makes many people's lives better so trust me I am not knocking it, but my mind is not capable of making that leap of faith. That is all.

Good for you. I don't believe I called you out specifically.

I do think you called out agnostics and most agnostics have similar views as me on this issue. Now militant atheists...... that is a whole another story.

     Hey, what did I ever do to you?

[Associate Justice PiT]

So because I cannot believe I am arrogant? LOL. Note that I never said god does not exist. I am just a confused little boy......

No, I'm saying that that's the arrogance - the insistance in believing that we, as believers, are saying something that we're not really saying.

Look you believe in god. You do not know whether god exists and neither do any of us. Believing in god makes many people's lives better so trust me I am not knocking it, but my mind is not capable of making that leap of faith. That is all.

Good for you. I don't believe I called you out specifically.

I do think you called out agnostics and most agnostics have similar views as me on this issue. Now militant atheists...... that is a whole another story.

     Hey, what did I ever do to you?

Hmm? I thought you were agnostic. Anyways I think atheists just have a problem with religion and that is why they get all up in your face with the "god does not exist" stuff. Now of course by god I mean any sort of a creator and do not mean it in any religious sense. So there is a definite possibility there was a creator of the universe and thus, human beings as well.

     Though I am an Atheist, I don't like people who feel the need to go out & proselytize. As such, I don't get up in anybody's face as long as they don't get up in mine.

[Associate Justice PiT]

     Though I am an Atheist, I don't like people who feel the need to go out & proselytize. As such, I don't get up in anybody's face as long as they don't get up in mine.

In some religions, to proselyte is to follow the faith.  Most people who have ever proselyted know that there are people with your view point.  Instead of taking it offensively, simply say "no" and let them move on.  If they do then get in your face about it...by all means go crazy.  I can't tell you how many times people yelled at me when they simply could have said no and I would have moved on.

     Yeah, I've been proselytized to enough times that I usually don't even realize it anymore until after the person has gone. Proof of desensitization methinks.